switch to Mac or stick with Windows

By AMDIsTheBest010
May 1, 2006
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  1. WinDoWsMoNoPoLy

    WinDoWsMoNoPoLy Newcomer, in training Posts: 269

    I would probably go with Linspire. There are no alternatives to Windows that are as easy as Windows though, be prepared to learn some bash if you do go linux.
  2. holiday112284

    holiday112284 Newcomer, in training

  3. danswebs

    danswebs Newcomer, in training Posts: 65

    Ive had my Windows PC for over 6months now and it's on 24/7 and it's crashed once and that was due to hardware problems, not problems with windows.
  4. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,351   +301

  5. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Which interface? There are tons of them. (KDE, Gnome, XDM, Xfce, iceWM, WindowMaker, Afterstep, Enlightenment, etc.)
  6. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,478   +292

  7. Julian309

    Julian309 Newcomer, in training Posts: 17

    yea because there arnt any viruses for the mac their all for the windows os because more people use windows.

    I would say the only thing macs are used for and good for is Video editing thats just were all the good video editing software is I have know Idea why???
  8. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,351   +301

    sorry, urban legend but also not so. With the FreeBSD(Unix) at the core, OS X 10.* is now exposed
    for Unix style bugs ... eg; the zlib buffer overrun.
  9. AMDIsTheBest010

    AMDIsTheBest010 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 546

    umm dont know if windows just hates you or something like that b/c i have been using windows since 3.1 and well heres a rundown

    3.1: not really to much to crash on this OS

    95: fairly reliable, much nicer UI compared to 3.1 (also loved the "start" menu)

    98 and 98SE: upped reliability even more when compared to 95, interface is pretty much the same except they added "active desktop"

    Windows Me: i will admit this was the absolute worst OS ever created, upgraded from 98SE and within a week removed Me and re-installed 98SE

    Windows 2000: used on my office computer, very reliable and stable never once had a crash on 2000

    Windows XP SP2: this is by far the best OS ever that microsoft has created, extremely stable on my system, never crashed much nicer UI than previous versions

    Base Specs:
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+
    1GB PC3200 RAM
    160GB HD
    Nvidia GEFORCE 6100SERIES


    oh and by the way if u have many "backround" programs running then why dont u just end them???

    ctrl alt delete, press "processes", then end the process you dont want
  10. WinDoWsMoNoPoLy

    WinDoWsMoNoPoLy Newcomer, in training Posts: 269

    They are ended, permanently.

    Go into the Windows forum and then tell me that windows is reliable.

    On a new topic. VISTA! Sngx just installed it and tells me its slow as hell. Anyone have any feedback?
  11. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Windows Explorer turned to Internet Explorer also.

    I've only had problems with XP SP2 computers, but 98SE and Win2k machine with no hardware problems are very stable. The XP machine with problems seem to have trouble with hardware, but it was OK with 2k.
     
  12. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,288   +262

    I've had the exact opposite experience with Vista - I find it to be very fast compared to XP. Will keep playing with it for a while and leave feedback.
  13. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Maybe SNGX has hardware or driver problems?
  14. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,478   +292

    Audio driver doesn't work. Everything else should be fine with it.

    CPU: A64 2800+ @1.98ghz
    Ram: 1 gig of some Mushkin
    Vid Card: EVGA 7800GS SC
    HD: Main one is a 200gig SATA, then I have 1 other sata and 2 IDE drives, all 7200rpm.
    Motherboard: Asus K8N-E Deluxe

    So its not the fastest machine ever, but it should be running 64bit vista far better. Currently its acting like XP on a 400Mhz K6-2 with 128 megs of ram. (I would know, I ran XP on a system like that)
  15. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    I ran Win2k for years on the same machine ---> SLLLOOOOOWW! (I just upgraded the RAM since. Not as slow as Win2k on a Pentium 150 with 64MB of RAM, I did it too. 6 hours just to install it.)

    Weak points seem like the CPU and amount of RAM. What does Vista say about your RAM, is it always full? As for a CPU... picking up an X2 4600 in August wouldn't do any bad!

    About audio, if it's Realtek, they've got drivers for Vista. What about chipset, cool'n'quiet, sata drivers?
  16. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,478   +292

    I guess I could look into all that mess, but I really don't feel like it - if it bothered me enough I'd make a new thread or post in the vista beta 2 thread. After I get home from work I want to use a system that just works without spending time troubleshooting. Troubleshooting is maybe something I'll do on the weekend.

    Basically, I don't care enough about vista at this point to look into it during my evenings when I could be doing something more relaxing.
  17. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,351   +301

    this is a prime motivator for Mac users -- use the system, not manage it :giddy:

    stmt of fact: My wife's Mac takes 1/10 the mangement time of Win/XP
  18. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Well, in fact, managment on OS X can be long(To get all it's performance). Like with Windows, they don't give every tools you need to manage it properly.

    Instead of running Ad-Aware, chkdsk, etc. you run OnyX, disk utility, monolingual, and a lot others I forgot their name. (They are all used to clean everything and optimize your files. It can take more than an hour to run all this, and at least you see a performance difference.)

    With Linux, all my apps are upgraded with the same utility, the file system needs no optimizations, and needs no checkup after an unclean shutdown (It will check everything in a few seconds and correct it if there's a problem, all the apps are always properly placed, there's a different partition for swap, programs, boot, system, and your own config/personal files.)
  19. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,478   +292

    Ok, Vista's piss poor performance was on its first boot, I should have realized this as a potential problem before I spoke too harshly about it. But admitedly I was not the one that broke the news to TS about it being slow.

    I've finally got a chance now to boot into it and install some stuff and actually get my sound to work. Everything appears to be working now except my SATA Raid (silicon something) but thats cool because I don't have anything connected to those 4 channels anyway. There are 2 other unknown devices in the device manager, I'm not sure what they are but I don't see it as a problem.. yet.

    For the most part its much speedier now, but some things are incredibly slow still, like accessing the device manager, it thinks for a while (but doesn't even appear to be thinking, just feels like lag) then dims the displays to ask me if I for sure was the one that wanted to open device manager.

    To answer your question earlier about how the ram looks - PF Usage is 1.09GB, Commit Charge is 1120/2311M (Peak was 1179596K). Avaiable Physical Memory is 558,548K. This is with mIRC, Trillian, 3 IE windows open, Device Manager, Task Manager, Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound, and 3 explorer windows open.

    CPU usage isn't doing much staying pretty low, jumped to 17% for just a bit when alt tabbing (as it created the preview windows). So right now I think the lag I'm getting isn't so much hardware related as it is just a beta os.
  20. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

  21. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,478   +292

    why? other than to make the ! go away. I don't need it.
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