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switch to Mac or stick with Windows

Discussion in 'The Alternative OS' started by AMDIsTheBest010, May 1, 2006.

  1. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,891   +117

    Eh? I don't know what hardware you were using when you expierenced this. I've got a pretty high end PowerPC Powerbook with 1.5 gigs of RAM and I never have to wait to open finder or the applications directory in there. But my sister has a G3 iBook 600mhz I think with something less than 768 megs of RAM and she has no wait times either.
  2. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    I've seen this behaviour only when the computer has just been restarted, and these things aren't in memory yet.

    Actually, Software Update checks updates for all applications in Applications folder.

    And please, people (not just DragonMaster), educate yourself about OSX memory management. It's different from Windows.

    Memory Management in OSX

    An Overview of Memory Usage in Mac OSX

    Mac OS X: Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor

  3. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    But not 3rd apps : Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, OnyX, Monolingual, etc.

    Read the sites. It's much like Windows /w a registry tweak except that it uses more memory.
  4. WinDoWsMoNoPoLy Newcomer, in training Posts: 269

    I really do hate Windows because it eventually always crashes. You could have a computer running Windows not connected to the internet for years and it would eventually get the BSOD.

    Theres alot of really stupid problems i've had with windows, such as: Integrated video, going to put in a new one. Turn the integrated video off in BIOS, put new card in. Won't boot because the integrated video driver is still there. Now if you turned it off wouldn't you think Windows being the high-tech OS it is would remove that driver? Nope, you have to remove it, turn off the integrated and then put the card in. And even after that Windows on a few occassions put that driver back.

    One of the main downfalls of Windows is that it never changes priorities. You can load a full screen game where you can't even see the GUI and the priorities DO NOT CHANGE. It should decrease the priorities for the GUI, and turn off the services in the background that do things that are useless when your in a full screen game. Instead they stay the same and your game is left with what is left over.

    I hate autodetecting to. It constantly monitors for new devices using RAM. Linux autodetects stuff like your monitor, mouse, keyboard on the install, everything you need to get into the GUI and set everything else up. Now you could make Windows like that and save RAM. And in Windows it would be easier to do. Add New Hardware, put in your driver disk, there ya go.

    I have also heard people say that Windows BSODs eventually because it gets lost with in the mass amount of code and files it produces. Look at all the files windows builds up, icon cache, prefetcher, indexing, the MFT, System Caching (which can be changed in the registry) using all the available memory to cache by default. Think about that, having say 2GIG of memory and your systemcache using all the extra and your program loading slow. I have a batch file made to clear most of these though.

    Then the crapload of useless services that run in the background on windows eating RAM as well.

    Windows has the idea really, they just have stupid setting for most of these options (which really aren't options if you dont know what regedit is like half the people that use computers). Most of those options can be changed. Sadly prioities can't be. If it could i'm sure i could run games on Windows just as good as i do on Linux.

    I have no opinions on Macs.... never used one. I've seen the GUI and it looks pretty sexy.

    Speaking of GUI everyone talks about how KDE or GNOME or whatever are so customizable. Well if you've ever tried the Windows GUI is to, My desktop has a toolbar underneath the regular one with all of my drives, run, my documents, ect. on it. Then my quicklaunch has 17 icons in it(i just counted them) with all of the programs i use in it. They say the most common button clicked in windows is the start button, well not for me.

    Windows is more customizable than you think, hell my start button says "Stop" i thought that was amusing.... Editing the explorer.exe :p.
    Theres even a way to get rid of the recycling bin. I always hated that because XP almost offered a clean desktop with no icons but you always had the recycling bin. It can be done through regedit :p

    The only thing windows really lacks is different sizes icons for toolbars and more color choices for the toolbars and transparency. Which probably eat RAM as well. I have my taskbar set to autohide so it looks like image preview when i dont have anything up.

    But really you get my idea, if Windows made a new edition that was made for performance with all of the things i've stated changed that way and probably a hundred or more more than that it would be a great OS. I mean hey the computer illiterate might have a hard time getting used to it(or they could stay with XP) but i would get high FPS in my games :p

    Ok i'm done blabbing.
  5. TonyGuitar Newcomer, in training Posts: 92

    Switch to Mac or keep Win? RE: lost time -Malware??

    First person who offers a basic bundle of browser, Email client, word processor and data base that is malware resistant for $49.95 is going to make LOTS of money.

    Call me spoiled, but twice daily headlines like this are getting tiresome.
    =================
    Critical Word Vulnerability Uncovered
    By Nate Mook, BetaNews
    May 19, 2006, 5:47 PM
    Security researchers have discovered a zero-day vulnerability in Microsoft Word, which is already being actively exploited by hackers in China and Taiwan. Microsoft's Security Response Center says it is working with antivirus vendors to prevent attacks and plans to release a security patch on June 13.
    =================
    Windows has certainly become THE target.

    Mozilla is part way there.

    They just need to add a W.P. and database that are bulletproof.

    What is your idea of a RELIABLE alternate suite to Windows?

    Billy Gates is doing his best to be nice to me, [the little guy], but he is too successful and thus a main target.

    I need a low profile alternate so as not to waste so much time on cleaning malware.

    I see a mess of unfinished possible alternates out there, Redhat, Ubuntu, Mac, Mozzilla, what would you choose? TG
  6. WinDoWsMoNoPoLy Newcomer, in training Posts: 269

    I would probably go with Linspire. There are no alternatives to Windows that are as easy as Windows though, be prepared to learn some bash if you do go linux.
     
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  8. danswebs Newcomer, in training Posts: 65

    Ive had my Windows PC for over 6months now and it's on 24/7 and it's crashed once and that was due to hardware problems, not problems with windows.
  9. jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,211   +119

  10. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Which interface? There are tons of them. (KDE, Gnome, XDM, Xfce, iceWM, WindowMaker, Afterstep, Enlightenment, etc.)
  11. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,891   +117

  12. Julian309 Newcomer, in training Posts: 17

    yea because there arnt any viruses for the mac their all for the windows os because more people use windows.

    I would say the only thing macs are used for and good for is Video editing thats just were all the good video editing software is I have know Idea why???
  13. jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,211   +119

    sorry, urban legend but also not so. With the FreeBSD(Unix) at the core, OS X 10.* is now exposed
    for Unix style bugs ... eg; the zlib buffer overrun.
  14. AMDIsTheBest010 Newcomer, in training Posts: 546

    umm dont know if windows just hates you or something like that b/c i have been using windows since 3.1 and well heres a rundown

    3.1: not really to much to crash on this OS

    95: fairly reliable, much nicer UI compared to 3.1 (also loved the "start" menu)

    98 and 98SE: upped reliability even more when compared to 95, interface is pretty much the same except they added "active desktop"

    Windows Me: i will admit this was the absolute worst OS ever created, upgraded from 98SE and within a week removed Me and re-installed 98SE

    Windows 2000: used on my office computer, very reliable and stable never once had a crash on 2000

    Windows XP SP2: this is by far the best OS ever that microsoft has created, extremely stable on my system, never crashed much nicer UI than previous versions

    Base Specs:
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+
    1GB PC3200 RAM
    160GB HD
    Nvidia GEFORCE 6100SERIES


    oh and by the way if u have many "backround" programs running then why dont u just end them???

    ctrl alt delete, press "processes", then end the process you dont want
  15. WinDoWsMoNoPoLy Newcomer, in training Posts: 269

    They are ended, permanently.

    Go into the Windows forum and then tell me that windows is reliable.

    On a new topic. VISTA! Sngx just installed it and tells me its slow as hell. Anyone have any feedback?
  16. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Windows Explorer turned to Internet Explorer also.

    I've only had problems with XP SP2 computers, but 98SE and Win2k machine with no hardware problems are very stable. The XP machine with problems seem to have trouble with hardware, but it was OK with 2k.
  17. LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 3,946   +120

    I've had the exact opposite experience with Vista - I find it to be very fast compared to XP. Will keep playing with it for a while and leave feedback.
  18. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Maybe SNGX has hardware or driver problems?
  19. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,891   +117

    Audio driver doesn't work. Everything else should be fine with it.

    CPU: A64 2800+ @1.98ghz
    Ram: 1 gig of some Mushkin
    Vid Card: EVGA 7800GS SC
    HD: Main one is a 200gig SATA, then I have 1 other sata and 2 IDE drives, all 7200rpm.
    Motherboard: Asus K8N-E Deluxe

    So its not the fastest machine ever, but it should be running 64bit vista far better. Currently its acting like XP on a 400Mhz K6-2 with 128 megs of ram. (I would know, I ran XP on a system like that)
  20. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    I ran Win2k for years on the same machine ---> SLLLOOOOOWW! (I just upgraded the RAM since. Not as slow as Win2k on a Pentium 150 with 64MB of RAM, I did it too. 6 hours just to install it.)

    Weak points seem like the CPU and amount of RAM. What does Vista say about your RAM, is it always full? As for a CPU... picking up an X2 4600 in August wouldn't do any bad!

    About audio, if it's Realtek, they've got drivers for Vista. What about chipset, cool'n'quiet, sata drivers?