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System unstable since upgrade to a 3200+ AthlonXP (GAH someone help please)

By grifterec
Nov 1, 2004
  1. I have a a7n8x deluxe, with 1 gig of ram and a 9700 all in wonder pro, im running xp pro with service pack 2. Yesterday i upgraded from a athlon xp 2700 to a barton 3200. Now my computer at random times will give me a blue screen and then immediately crash. when it crashes it is ungodly slow to load immediately after. if i leave the computer off for a bit it goes back to normal. Anny sugesstions?
    - gabe

    - Please use proper thread titles
    Didou
     
  2. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    sorry

    sorry was my first post, dont whip me with ide cable. PLEASE!
     
  3. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Update

    I dont think it is ovferheating since it just crashed at 50c Im getting frustrated. Remember office space? Yeah well a computer not a copier.
     
  4. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 4,274

    Well we need more information about your setup. Which revision of the board is it ? Which brand/type of Ram is it ? PC2700 ? PC3200 ? DualChannel tested ? What's the power of your PSU ? Which BIOS version are you using ?
     
  5. novicegamer

    novicegamer TS Rookie Posts: 89

    Remove SP2 and see how it works.I had that same problem now it works alot better and no more BSOD's
     
  6. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    thanks

    Did SP2 work well before you ugraded? Cause it did for me.
     
  7. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 4,274

    Also, are you running a boxed version of the CPU (the one sold in AMD box with a fan & 3 year warranty) ? There have been some 2500+ chips rebadged as 3200+ parts circulating in the OEM circuit. See if the chip works fine at 2500+ speeds ( 11x 166mhz -> 1826mhz ). :blackeye:
     
  8. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hrmm

    Actually it is an OEM... But Cpu-z detects it as a barton 3200+. I dunno, im not too smart about this stuff. But i own a gun, if it is a bullshit chip
     
  9. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 4,274

    CPU-Z & other such programs can be fooled quite easilly I'm afraid. The CPU does not contain a static identification string which never changes regardless. The BIOS looks in its identifiation string "database" & the CPU closest to what you are running is what will be displayed. If you run your CPU at 11x166mhz it will display it as a 2500+, if you lower it to 11x133mhz it will display it as a 1700+, etc.

    It only displays 3200+ because it is an AthlonXP with 512kb of cache running at 2.2GHz with a 200mhz FSB, that's it. Nothing actually proves it is a genuine 3200+.

    If possible, it might be worth removing the chip & taking a picture of the upper part, that you can see the different bridges on the surface (to eventually detect extra soldering work) & you can also see the identification tag near the side of the chip. I don't know if that's possible.
     
  10. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    well that sucks

    i dunno if it wasnt the right chip, i would think it would either overheat, or if i ran it at a much lower setting it would run fine, neither is the case. I updated my bios that didnt help either. God damn i hate freakin computers.
     
  11. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    For what its worth ( Please read)

    I took out the chip and its not cracked at all. I dont havea good digital camera at home right now, but what strikes me is that the proc is green. Which is wierd cause all others ive seen are brown, is this a bogus chip? Do i have to start a directron.com boycott? BAH! or am i just wierded out?
     
  12. RealBlackStuff

    RealBlackStuff TS Rookie Posts: 6,503

  13. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 4,274

    Here's an example of a counterfeit identification tag.

    [​IMG]

    You can see the letters are not properly aligned & aren't the same sizes.
     
  14. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Well

    The tab looks completely genuine. according to that pic. the letters are the same and aligned, but the actualy chip piece is bigger like older chips and the color of the background is green not brown
     
  15. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 4,274

    Another thing you can try (it actually worked for me) is setting the onboard jumper to 200 instead of 266/333/400. It sounds like it would force your CPU to lower it speed to 11x100 & it will at first. Once you re-power the system, go in the BIOS & set the FSB back to 200mhz (400).

    It's a wierd workaround but it works for this specific combination A7N8X Deluxe / 3200+ / DualChannel PC3200.
     
  16. grifterec

    grifterec TS Rookie Topic Starter

    thnx man,

    if it doesnt take me too long to try and re-elect bush im going to try that when i get home.
     
  17. senser

    senser TS Rookie

    You should really check with the board manufacturer and see if the bios you have supports the 3200+ You might just need to flash the bios to a newer version...if they've updated it for your board.
     
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