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"The handle is invalid" ...whats that mean

By Dysanvu
Jul 21, 2005
  1. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    There are a couple ways to "reinstall" Windows XP.

    A "Repair Install" will go through and reload your system files and and generally "refresh" your system. This often fixes strange errors like this.

    A Full install with a format will erase everything and give you a clean install of Windows. It will guarantee that your problems are gone, but you'll be starting from scratch loading all your programs again. And you will lose data unless you back it up somewhere first.

    There is another way, where you load Windows "on top" of itself. That is, don't format, but install to the same directory. This gives you a new Windows and registry, with all your own stuff still there. But your HDD will still be filled with "left over" files and folders from your programs, which you'll still have to reload anyway because you have a new registry.

    Best option if you don't want to fiddle with it anymore, is to reload with a format. You have to back up data first.
    You can try a repair install, and that might work, but it is still recommended to back up your data anyway.

    good luck
     
  2. Dysanvu

    Dysanvu TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    So., itried the online scan the bitde....somehting but the other one swouldnt work becuse i didnt have acitveX or something. I found 12 viruses and i scanned 2 times the seciond time i ddint find any. Even thought the viruses are gone, the problem remains, so i dont think its the viruses. I ran fixexe-1.reg again but it didnt do anyhting. So how do u repair install? Can u give me the instructions please? Thanks
     
  3. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Hmmz
    The viruses may be gone, deleted, now but that doesn't mean any changes they made to your system will be undone.

    To do a repair install it's pretty easy. You just need two things:

    1) Your "real" XP CD. Not like a recovery disc from Dell or something, but an actual, silver, XP CD.

    2) Your 25-digit Product Key. Located on a sticker somewhere on your case perhaps. It will ask for this code and if you don't have one, you're screwed.
    ------------

    Next, if at all you can back up data, do so. Burn a disc if you can or copy the data somewhere. At least for your most important files.

    Next, be sure you do NOT have file encryption on. That is, that you are "hiding" your files from other users. To check, go to C:\Documents and Settings\ and look for your profile folder. RIGHT-click this folder and choose Properties. Click the "Sharing" tab. And make sure "Make this folder private" is UNchecked.
    This is because if you make your folder private and then Repair Install, you may not be able to access the data in there. Well, you CAN, but that is additional steps.

    It may be a good idea to turn off File Compressing too if it's on. Right-click the C: drive and there should be an option right there for using file compression.

    Once everything is in order, pop in your XP CD and restart the machine. Boot off the CD and into XP setup. Now I don't know exactly what the screens are off the top of my head.
    The first screen will be like an option to setup Windows, and and option to use Recovery Console. You want to choose the option to load XP.
    Then on one of the next screens you'll have an option to do Repair Install. It is actually quite easy to spot. The other option I think is to "Press ESC to load a fresh copy..."
    Anyway, the Repair is easy to see. Do that.

    Put in your key when it asks. Create a user name if it asks. This will "look" like a normal install of XP, but don't worry, your data should be fine. Just as long as you never told XP to "format" or "erase" anything. And you used the Repair option in Setup. You should be good to go. Most of your programs should still work as well. If not, remove and reload them.

    Hope it works!
     
  4. puppetgrimm1

    puppetgrimm1 TS Rookie Posts: 64

    Im guessing but do you have a sony Vaio? If so, first install sonySL "shared library" this will give you access to all the apllications on your application recovery CD next you need to restart and then you need to install a program called OpenGM it will be found on one of your application cd's this should fix the problem. this works with my computer but its only version v70.0 So this all depends on wich version you have.

    P.S. I know most of the programms on my machine will not wok properly, and every time you try to run the programms if will try to reinstall itself if this sounds like your problem the above may help.

    anyway hope this helps

    Late
    Puppetgrimm1
     
  5. Dysanvu

    Dysanvu TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Alll righty...Major problems now =/
    I ran the repair installation and it finshed, although there was a msg about entry point, GetIUMS not being located in MSDART.Dll taht keept poping up. Well the install finshed and now a lot more things wont work. For example IE and the fixexe.reg wont work.also a box called messenger service says something about "message from sysytme to alret on 8/7/2005 1:50:05 "
    STOP! WINDOWS REQUIRES IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.

    Windows has found 47 CRITICAL SYSTEM ERROS!

    to fix errors please do the following:
    1. dowload registry repair from ms-fix.co
    install
    run
    reboot your comp
    FAILURE TO ACT NOW MAY LEAD TO DATA LOSS AND CORRUpotion.

    The problem is that the handle is invalid thing is still there and i cant run the install haha...IM scared now...
     
  6. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    I tell you what, that doesn't sound like a Microsoft error message to me. That sounds like your virus buddy or some such, is back to get you. "ms-fix.co" ??? I think not.

    As far as I know, Windows has no "self-check" function that tells people they have "xx critical system errors!". So ignore or remove that if you can find it.

    The "msdart.dll" problem is a regular problem that Windows can have. Read this and see if you find a fix: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_20914310.html

    In most all situations, a Repair Install will fix anything having to do with the Windows System itself. But it seems apparent that something, possibly or service, or some major corruption exists in your system. A FULL reload may be your only option now. If not, if you can't, then we may may be in this for a long haul :(

    Also note, "Messenger Service" IS a part of Windows, it's the little guy that handles pop up messages like yours. But the message itself is likely NOT from Windows itself. At least, I've never seen an error like that.

    If that thread I posted doesn't fix your msdart error, then see if you can post a Hijackthis log and maybe we'll see something in your startups.

    We've almost hit the dirt now!
     
  7. Dysanvu

    Dysanvu TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    So the messenger service thing is gone now becuse i disabled it.There are a lot more things that say the handle is invaild like explorer, so i cant open my computer normally. BUt i can open something like search and can access it from that screen. In the Other forum they said to download and INSTALL microsoft data access, but i cant install so there..OH yeah i also have new problem, i tried to log into my accoutn, it did, then it log out rite after, there is no message taht pops out, it just says logging out with that windows sound. this all happend after the repair.
     
  8. Dysanvu

    Dysanvu TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    I just reparid installed again and this tiem no problem with the GETISUM msdart.dll, but unfortunatly the problems are still here. At least one thing is gone....
     
  9. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Did you try loading the Microsoft Installer? Or Windows scripting host? Get off Microsoft web site.

    But then again, if still no EXEs will work, and no installers work. There is still some serious trouble. You could try to reload Windows on top of itself, that is, in the same folder. And your data may be ok, as long as you don't format but leave the file system "in tact". Very risky though, backup data first.
    Best option is, of course, a FULL backup and reload of XP.

    I'd say, if the files themselves are not corrupt, then all kinds of system files likely ARE. DLLs need reregistered, file need refreshed. A big mess.

    If you still can't backup, maybe your could load windows into a DIFFERENT folder. Or a different partition or a different drive. And see what happens.

    As one last effort, in Normal Mode, click Start-Run and type "SFC /SCANNOW". You probably already did that, but it can't hurt.
     
  10. Dysanvu

    Dysanvu TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Finally all the old problems are gone..i just reinstalled a fresh copy of windows ontop of my c drive.BUTtttttttt now everything is messed up, all my paths,folders, etc. At least there inst that pesky the handle is invaild problem. Anyways, do you how i would fix everyhting back to normal? My desktop is empty and all the things are in differnet folders. I had 2 accoutants, but now they are gone. The data is still there.. just not wehre its supposed to be. Know how to fix?
     
  11. Dysanvu

    Dysanvu TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    ALLRIGHT! :angel: I finally finshed eveything. Everything is organized and all the paths work. NO more the hanle is INvaild! :) Thanks to everyone for all their help and good luck with future problem solving.

    THANks

    Dysanvu
     
     
  12. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    You know what is funny? The whole problem was likely just some missing or messed up registry keys, or a bad DLL or something needs to be reregistered. But only Bill Gates himself could have found it. lol

    Glad it's working now, I can stop sweating tears over it. :)
     
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