This startup will give you a 4K TV for free if you watch nonstop ads

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Through the looking glass: There's a new entrant in the TV market that wants to disrupt the traditional business model behind it at the cost of user privacy. Telly's bold plan is to convince you that a free TV is worth the inconvenience of a second screen showing persistent ads. TV makers already pre-load their TVs with ad-supported services to compensate for slim profit margins, so it will be interesting to see if Telly's ambitions come to fruition.

The world of TV tech has seen a lot of innovation over the past several years, from new display technologies to new broadcasting standards, gaming features, "Eco Remotes", virtual TV on augmented reality glasses, and even things like kill switches and non-fungible tokens.

However, a company called Telly believes it can build an entirely new TV category and disrupt the traditional business model of TV manufacturers like Samsung, Vizio, LG, and others. Instead of having you pay for a large slab of glass, it will give it to you for free if you accept a slightly different concept than the one you've grown accustomed to.

Simply put, Telly has built a TV that has two screens separated by a soundbar that doesn't cost you anything other than your privacy. The larger screen is essentially a 55-inch 4K HDR TV that offers a traditional TV experience. Below the soundbar, there's a smaller screen whose main purpose is to show you ads and promotional content.

In a statement, Telly founder Ilya Pozin explained that "when I co-founded Pluto TV, we created an entirely new model that offered amazing TV content to viewers for free. Now, with Telly, we are providing the actual television for free as well."

The thinking behind this new business model is rooted in studies that show a large percentage of adults often look at a second screen while watching TV. If Telly wants to succeed, that second screen will have to be the "Smart Display" on its new TV, which is designed to show various widgets with sponsored news, sports scores, stock prices, and, of course, ads.

To that end, the company needs to tailor the ads appearing on that screen to your preferences, which is why you'll need to agree to share some information about you and your family that can help advertisers target you with relevant ads. In addition to that, the TV will collect data about the content you watch, the length of your viewing sessions, and more. This is bound to raise some privacy concerns, and to some, it may well be a deal-breaker.

Furthermore, the company may at times utilize both screens to show you ads. When you're not watching anything on the main "Theater" display, it will be used to show you different types of promotional content, including interactive polls that reward you for participating with things like gift cards for services like Netflix and Starbucks.

Powering the entire "experience" is Telly OS, but oddly enough the TV also ships with an Android TV dongle that you can plug into one of the three HDMI ports to get access to popular streaming services. You also get a camera and microphone that allow you to make video calls, use an AI-powered assistant, or access one of several "free advanced motion-tracking fitness programs."

We're told the camera has a privacy shutter that will be closed when you receive your TV, which is arguably a must on a device that needs to learn a great deal about you through various means to subsidize the cost of the hardware and generate a profit for Telly and its advertising partners.

Speaking of profit, Telly will only be able to ship 500,000 devices this year. The company plans to ramp up to millions of TVs shipped in the coming years, which is an ambitious goal. Pozin says his ad-supported streaming service Pluto TV has 80 million users – a small success that has convinced him to try reinventing the business model of smart TVs.

Telly claims the TV would retail for $1,000, which we're assuming is due to the added cost of the soundbar and the second screen. It's worth noting you can opt out of the data collection, but you'll have to pay $500 in order to keep the device. The $500 figure is likely closer to the actual production cost, so Telly would have to generate hundreds of millions of dollars in ad and affiliate revenue just to break even on this first batch of 500,000 TVs.

The concept itself is certainly intriguing, though we'll have to wait and see if it turns out to be a working business model. Telly says it was able to find a few bullish investors earlier this year that will back its efforts, but it has yet to explain how it will deal with any attempts to circumvent the persistent ads on the second screen.

If the idea of an ad-supported TV sounds appealing, you can reserve one here. There is no clear shipping date, but Telly says it will start shipping the new TV sometime this summer.

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There's definitely a gap in the market for a device like this. I don't necessarily think it's something I'd get but I definitely think there's a portion of consumers who are budget stricken who this would appeal to.
 
This is one step closer to Back to the Future's vision of watching content from multiple screens.
 
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There is no shot they will design a device that I wouldn't just block the second screen. Hell I (or anyone) could just rip the second screen off. I'm sure they have some sort of "anticheat" but there is NEVER an unhackable device . . .
 
How much do they charge you if you never connect it to the Internet and just use it to play COD on your Xbox?
 
I speed read the article, so inform me if I missed an important sentence or two. But it sounds like a challenge to XDA developers. Why wouldn't we be able to mod the OS and disable the advertisements?

Even the average nerd could monitor connections and block those connecting to ad servers.
 
I speed read the article, so inform me if I missed an important sentence or two. But it sounds like a challenge to XDA developers. Why wouldn't we be able to mod the OS and disable the advertisements?

Even the average nerd could monitor connections and block those connecting to ad servers.

I suppose you could use a Pi Hole to block the ads too. I wouldn't mind getting one of these just to hack it or use it as a dedicated monitor for my game console and set top box.
 
Of course, you have to submit a laundry list of ad preferences to the company in order to reserve a spot. What an easy way to get high quality consumer profiles!
 
The company will go out of business within 2 years so you'll end up with a completely free TV, unless of course they can weasel their way into getting it back from you regardless of what they put in their contract, which is what they'll absolutely try on you. Also they'll likely try to blackmail you.

However if you have a public/community space or are a business or similar, it could be a boon. Waiting rooms for instance.
 
That is bizzare. Absorbing ads, especially as a kid can't be good for development. I believe consumerism is rampant today because children have access to iPads where they are constantly bombarded with ads.

I don't even watch TV and if I bring one into my room it's just gonna be a second monitor and for an occasional movie.
 
The company will go out of business within 2 years so you'll end up with a completely free TV, unless of course they can weasel their way into getting it back from you regardless of what they put in their contract, which is what they'll absolutely try on you. Also they'll likely try to blackmail you.

However if you have a public/community space or are a business or similar, it could be a boon. Waiting rooms for instance.

I thought the same. this could actually work if they're targeting small business operators in a dense area. think of a coffee stall or takeaway place near a train station where the shop could benefit from an extra big screen (for displaying orders and menus). or maybe a small shop where they put a youtube playlist on loop so they can have music all day long.

this reminds me of an advertising company who installed flat screen TV on public buses about two decades ago so they could display some gags and ads. of course back then people were actually not looking at their phone so it kinda make some sense.

they should never allow it for individual users because it doesn't make any sense at all.
 
I speed read the article, so inform me if I missed an important sentence or two. But it sounds like a challenge to XDA developers. Why wouldn't we be able to mod the OS and disable the advertisements?
Most likely the OS is online ala Chrome. Just guessing, but the TV likely wouldn't turn without an internet connection..

As for blocking, I (vaguely) understand the hosts file in Windows, nit in whatever OS this is. Besides, are we sure the Ad server isn't also the relay server for the programming?
 
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And if you put a big black piece of plastic on the ads screen the tv stop working?
Again, I'm just guessing nut, If I were designing this project, the remote sensor would be in the ad panel, not in the TV proper.

So, (assuming that were true), you probably could spray paint the majority of the screen black, and leave the remote sensor alone.

Again, that's assuming the sensor(s) aren't multi-point, and need more than one open to operate.
 
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