Thoughts on Vista/What is Your Problem With Vista

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I didn't "dislike" vista per se when I tried it.

I just found it offered me no real advantage when compared to windows XP, other than the fact that it will run directx 10 games. I found the performance in the current crop of games under windows vista to be slightly slower than what I was already getting on Xp.

Given how few DX10 games are currently available, I think i'll hold off switching to vista until it's had a service pack.
 
I did the plunge 2 weeks ago to 64b version of Ultimate and I am not sorry one inch about it. I am very happy with it, very stable on my machine. It was a pain to get going, had to disable every device on it (onboard audio/NIC's) and use a PS/2 mouse/keyboard so it would finish installation. I added one device at a time and after each time I added one I set a restore point. It runs flawlessly.

I run every single exe out there that I have come across and need except for Xoft's spyware package (which is no big deal).

Love it, MS has earned my respect...

:chef:
 
com surrogate erros are getting on my nerves, i do a lot of video editing with power producer and movie maker and simply this is not good enough. ive googled it and tryed just about everything, give me service pack one please microsoft! :(
also my pc keeps restarting in the middle of things and also vista loads up slow for me

and the specks are above the minimum by far
im running vista business build 6000 by the way
 
xJoesullix, if you are running an RC version of vista then I would expect for there to be problems because the RC versions have memory holes.
With the right hardware vista is a ALOT more stable the XP, I haven't had a BSOD since changing to Vista in January, I use to see quite a few back with XP. Also the system security is a huge plus, I have UAC disabled but I still haven't suffered a virus, spyware attack etc.
 
hi yeah so im running windows vista and i can't watch any videos on fire fox or internet explorer also when i press start tab the way its suppose ot change the screens it won't and when i go over the tabs at the bottom of the screen the little window doesn't open also my computers rating is 5.4 and my friends is 5.2 but his works.
 
I'm running windows vista basic on this laptop, because that is what it came with. I haven't had any issues so far, and I like it. I do want to upgrade to ultimate, eventually on this laptop, but it won't be for a while. I liked XP Pro too though, that I had on my other laptop. I guess if I really wanted to, I could load XP pro on this new laptop and have both OS's on here. I need more RAM though, as this computer isn't fast enough for me.
Scott
 
fptp01 said:
when i press start tab the way its suppose ot change the screens it won't
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you need to enable the aero glass feature. Note it needs two things:
*windows vista home premium or better
*enough hardware to run it (namely minimum of 1gb RAM, maybe a decent graphics card to go with it)
 
Hmm how about the spyware that comes with Vista

Until a couple of days ago, like many others, I was looking forward to the long awaited release of Windows Vista. Then the news broke about Microsoft's intention to crack down on software piracy by putting what amounts to spyware on users' computers. Now I'm thinking twice about whether I really need or want this new operating system.

Microsoft's so-called Software Protection Program (SPP) has been presented to intending users as a fait accompli just a month ahead of Vista's scheduled release. It will mean that those who use Vista and other Microsoft products will have to put up with their systems constantly being checked online to make sure they're not using any products deemed to be pirated software.

I say deemed to be pirated software because as sure as night follows day there will be many cases in which the SPP will make mistakes and label legitimately acquired software as pirated.

In such cases, users will have to convince Microsoft that they bought their software legitimately and, if they don't succeed, they will have to hand over extra money or their system will be disabled.

In some cases, users who have activated a legitimate copy of Vista may need to do a number of reinstalls because they have suffered a hardware failure or their system isn't running well. Hopefully, Microsoft will be able to differentiate between that and users installing a single copy of Vista on multiple computers.

Perhaps we should be grateful to Microsoft for letting its intentions be known in advance of the Vista release. It gives us a chance to evaluate the alternatives.
 
There is a form of SPP already present in XP since SPII - without which none of the updates will be available. The sordid business of explaining that a hard drive failure means a reinstallation of the OS is also already present and I for one get the hump when the implication on having to phone for the activation code is that I have been a naugty little software p*rate. Argue with the service centre staff and they simply cut you off - and you have no redress.
Still - that in itself is not enough to shun Vista; my reason is that it simply didn't work properly (on a brand new system with much more than enough resources) and I am not going to waste time on it until SPI arrives.
 
I have been running Vista for quite some time now and have been having no problems with drivers and compatibility so far.

For those of you who are saying your need loads of RAM and a really expensive graphics card: RAM is cheap these days, why not invest? My Vista machine is running on Intel Accelerated Graphics with FULL graphics effects on including glass with no problems at all.

With regards to UAC, if it annoys you, turn it off, its that simple. But for an average user it is a very cleaver way of stopping you to do potentially silly things to your computer and to stop virus attacks. Its called SECURITY!

Every single program and device i have installed so far has had no problems at all, all running fine.

Finally, the whole 'Vista is crap' thing started because a load of the people running RC1 and RC2 had lots of problem and started complaining about it. The whole idea of a Release Candidate is for final TESTING!. Vista is a very stable operating system!
 
Yes danielsmith89,
you are one of the lucky ones... All Windows operating systems have been very "buggy" in their beginnings. After a Service Pack or two, things settle down. No matter what you say, I will wait a little longer before I plunge into Vista
 
Tmagic650 said:
Yes danielsmith89,
you are one of the lucky ones... All Windows operating systems have been very "buggy" in their beginnings. After a Service Pack or two, things settle down. No matter what you say, I will wait a little longer before I plunge into Vista
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Which is ridiculous. It is an absurd policy and downright unethical to make your customers pay to participate in a glorified beta test. This happened with 95, 98FE, 2000 and XP... and again with Vista. Where the OS is so god-awful in the beginning that people are pulling their hair out in frustration when another 6 months of development (focused on bug fixing rather than "feature" adding) could have been put to so much good use.
 
Here's my other 1c

The thing is you can't possibly test every single kind of configuration out there so how can something be tried and tested until a release? The only computers I know of that run Vista without a hitch are the Best Buy machines (or any other retail place). I work as a PC Tech at a local privately owned shop and have yet to see a single Vista machine except for the one we built for display.

I think anything new will automatically get criticism because people don't like change or envy those who have the newest/latest thing. My boss was liking Vista for a time until a HDD was not showing up for some reason. Then one night after work he booted and got a blue screen and was like "I hate Vista" and then tried an XP Pro install and the same thing happened, another BS. He tested his HDD with SUBCD and it was bad. All that "Vista sucks!" for nothing! :rolleyes:
 
holy cow everyone is still on about how much vista blows.

i honestly couldn't care less if the security features are a pain...or if the installation is like beating your head against a girder. the rig i'm going to test it on is going to have more than enough strength to power through vista like a hot knife through butter. and i'll even take the time to customize it to my liking. i'm going to give it a chance. there is no such thing as a flawless OS where problems don't exist. there are always going to be problems whether it be now or in a few months. you've just gotta bear with it.

you have all forgotten that XP will occasionally give you such problems too. why do you think there are so many forums, not unlike this one, to help out?

get over yourselves. vista isn't perfect. it didn't really claim to be perfect either. so stop complaining when a problem comes up. you should know better by now. as coth said, you can't test it on every single configuration. so you never know what might pop up.

either put up or shutup. i'm going to give vista a chance, and i'll make it work.
 
Well Said! :)

Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own, unless you`re only replying to a specific section, in which case you would only quote that section. ;)
 
"You should know better by now. As coth said, you can't test it on every single configuration"...

That's why there are Service Packs


"So stop complaining when a problem comes up"...

Oh come on link590o... That's Techspot's bread and butter. What else would we do if no one complained, or no one had problems?
 
hahah fair enough. that is very very true. but when i joined techspot, i felt like it was more about seeking help rather than saying "oh i had this and that problem and this sucks because of it".

all i'm saying is you can't prove that it sucks or doesn't suck. it'll work better for some than others, and it's all based on the computer. i've learned by now that computers are as individualistic as the person that owns it, service pack or no service pack. there are still tons of little things that will make tons of problems crop up for a lot of people. so i've decided to take most complaints about hardware and software with a grain of salt. i'll reserve my judgement unless there is concrete evidence that there is a major issue that needs to be resolved, which would then prevent me from wanting to try any merchandise in particular.

you can't really tell someone what to buy and what not to buy because the way it worked for you isn't necessarily the same way its going to work for the next guy. you can only advise them. and when you advise them, you have to have the facts straight. "this motherboard is open box, so you shouldn't buy it because it might not come with all the cables and stuff". something like that.

with vista, i'd rather people said "hey, you should be careful if you have this and that in your computer. this is how i fixed it." or "does anyone know how to fix that problem?" rather than outright saying vista is a pile of crap.
 
I for one think it is a pile of crap and will stay that way until the first SP comes through. Dunno how GatesCo had the cheek to release something so palpably unfihished again.
 
I am slowly getting out of the nerd rage feedback loop. While I am happy with XP I am hoping there is better out there. Dispite my hatred of all things MS, as a gamer I have to deal or give up playing anything. Hopefully there is a future OS out there that will give me the choice to use MS or not, but for now there isn't.

All accounts of Vista I have read either like or hate it (about 50/50), but for me the key factor is that ppl I know who use it really have only good things to say about it pass the initial shock of giving up XP.

Personally I have my copy of Vista and will be installing it on one of my secondary PCs later this month for a nice test. If all goes well I will be upgrading all but one of my machines to Vista (last one is a bit old and XP is fine for now on it).

What would be killer tho, is if one of you more tech savvy individuals post a very good how-to guide on tweaking Vista to run smooth and stable with the least resources eaten up. I remember when I tested the black hole that was XP 64 bit and I had 60 some processes running ... this is my only fear with vista, but I hear its not so bad.
 
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