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Time to Dump Internet Explorer

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Per Hansson, Jun 18, 2004.

  1. Godataloss Newcomer, in training Posts: 501

    Just a quick poll, but when was the last time anyone suffered any adverse effects from spyware?

    I hope we all know that after a session of surfing ' questionable' websites it is importat to wipe down with a vigorous session of spybot, AVG and your favorite source of absolution. That said, I dl'ed firefox (~5mb in 10 seconds so why the hell not) and Ill give it a go, but at the first sigh of a help file it goes right in the trash. Who has the time?
  2. Godataloss Newcomer, in training Posts: 501

    other than the way the cursor inverts the text as you type, it seems fine to me- maybe a tick faster than IE even
  3. Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 6,055   +121

    Security issues aside... it will always come down to the fact that there is no program that will make everyone happy. I see some of you trying to convince Acid of moving away from IE, in the other hand he seems to be happy with it.

    In my case it took a while until I found the advantage of moving to Firefox which is now my #1 browser of choice along with IE that I keep using only for more trusted sites.

    In any case although I won't add up much to the discussion, I wanted to say that if I were you I'd stop trying to convince people that much once you have warned them once... instead they will probably learn the hard way or in the best of the cases remain happy the way they are, even when they are missing something better.
  4. acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    I've been using IE for about 8+ years with no problems :).

    Heck, I'll even download Firefox again right now and MyIE and give them a go again, just for boredom sake. It won't last a week though :p.

    Spyware is no big deal. Besides when I scan I only find cookies and on the rare occasion something else which usually comes from AOL or another source.

    Users fall under two categorys.

    One, you are a techie and most likely know how to stay away from dangerous things on the web, maybe have a firewall/AV, etc.

    Two, your a normal user.

    Now, a normal user is not going to switch browsers, because they usually do not know about them, dont want to hassle with installing them and definately won't deal with setting one up or dealing with the hassles of incompatibility on sites designed for IE (which is MOST sites).

    A techie doesn't need to change browsers because he/she can most likely prevent himself from getting in to trouble.

    In either case, there is no need for an alternative browser other than wanting to use those "added features" you all talk about. In my case I could care less about those features.

    It will be a very long time before the majority of the public aren't using Windows anymore, so it will be an even longer time before the majority of users aren't using IE.
  5. Godataloss Newcomer, in training Posts: 501

    Been using firefox for all of an hour now and I F*ing hate what it does to the cursor- windows looks a-la '98
  6. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,894   +117

    I have to take a little different route than what you guys have commented above, and I'll probably repeat some points above in the process.

    I have no idea why you guys like FireFox, I've tried it 3 times now (once before it had an installer, once after, and then this RC for .9) and it comes out of the box as an inferior product to Opera 7.23 and Opera 7.5. First it looks better stock, second it has functions that can be added or removed to toolbars that Firefox requires extensions for, third it does all the stuff google toolbar does built in, and I could continue.

    Also I recently started to use its IRC capabilities (in 7.5) its not near as good as mIRC or even X-Chat but it does its job and once again does it in tabs saving screen space, I don't know how you guys running windows can have your taskbar on the bottom of your screen anyway but thats a whole new debate.

    I guess the only reason that I can think of for using firefox over Opera is the banner ad included in Opera if you don't have a registered version. If thats it well then I guess its at least an excuse...
     
  7. ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,369   +9

    I have atleast 50 windows open, and still would rather have that then tabs..

    And the whole spyware/adware thing is not a big deal at all, you just gotta be smart and stay away from the stuff.
  8. acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Note: Most people probably don't realize you can minimize MIRC to the system tray by holding shift and clicking the minimize button. This is also true for other applications which support it. I know that isn't a big deal but I thought I would mention that since were in the subject of "taking up taskbar space".
  9. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    Probably due to lazy web development, a lot of sites look crappy in anything but IE because IE is all they are tested in.
  10. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    Well I for one wouldn't have gotten that "talking lady ad" this morning if I wasn't using Avant ( IE front-end ).:dead:

    & BTW surfing pRon sites isn't the only way to get Adware, in fact you get adware more often when you install programs that come bundled with it ( DivX Pro anyone ? ). But still, just by surfing, IE is more likely to get adware installed ( sometimes without even asking you ) then with Opera/Firefox/Lynx.;)

    I always run AdAware/Spybot after installing programs, not after surfing sessions.
  11. DigitAlex TechSpot Paladin Posts: 583

    I'd like to say that LYNX OWNZ ALL YOUR BASE :D :D

    And most of the people do very bad web development because they don't even give a chance to that wonderful browser to display their website, losing all the geeeky audience out there :dead:

    Seriously, rename the Firefox icon and change it to the blue E and I bet your grandmother won't even notice :D
  12. So you've been using IE since 1996? Interesting. Because as far as I know, at that time you only had a choice of Lynx, Mosaic and Netscape (which were around version 1.1 or so afaicr).

    And there was no IE bundled with windows, nor available for download that year. But that might explain why you're so happy with it, since you must be getting the "special" IE from MS without all the problems we have to deal wtih.

    Sorry, just had to comment on that.
    Carry on using IE for all I care. As long as if you're ever going to create a website you'll at least stick to the html spec so the rest of us can use it too, and don't use the laughable FrontPage shiet!
  13. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    That's a bit incorrect. IE 1.0 was released in 1995.

    Internet Explorer History

    Most of the forum members should already know my opinion about IE so I won't bother discussing this.
  14. acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    I did that to my parents computer a while back :p.
  15. poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,745

    That is what I did to my computer at home for my wife and friends, cause they had no idea what ht red O was for.
  16. ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,369   +9

    I dont know Mic's .02 on IE.. and I'd like to know - Does he use it?
  17. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    No, he does not, as it's not available for Linux / BeOS.
  18. Yep, Didlo. I use IE6 also. Firfox is Ok. But Opera sux.
  19. Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,926

    Maybe you could share with us exactly what it is you don't like about Opera. Its no good saying something sux without qualifying why you believe it sux. Maybe you don't have a reason for disliking Opera, and are simply opinionated for the sake of it. :confused:
  20. vassil3427 Newcomer, in training Posts: 822

    I happen to find Ie to be just fine, I wont be getting rid of it anytime soon....