Too hot for gaming?

By Wafflebutt
Aug 1, 2012
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  1. Hi guys, I recently bought a pre-built gaming desktop. I usually get 40-45*C when idle, and around 60-70*C when playing games like Skyrim or Crysis 2. Is it normal?

    CPU: AMD FX-4100 Quadcore

    Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 Midi Tower black, 1X 120mm fan, Blue LEDs
    Motherboard: M5A78L- M LX V2

    GPU: Sapphire radeon 6870
    RAM: 4GB 1333 Mhz
    OS: Windows 7 home premium service pack 1
    Power supply: Silver Power SP-SS500 500W

    Any idea how I can keep the temperature down?

    This is what I got after play Crysis 2 for around 45 minutes:
  2. Ranger12

    Ranger12 TS Guru Posts: 620   +118

    I wouldn't say those temps are horrible and will kill your system. However, staying cool will usually prolong the life of your parts and prevent all sorts of weird issues.
    Take a look here:
    You may find some ways to lower temps. There's also a part 2 of that guide and you can find it in the "guides" section of the forum.
    Hope this helps!

    Oh and btw are you experience any overheating symptoms? ie. crashes, restarts, bsod's, FPS drop, etc.?
  3. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Evangelist Posts: 827   +192

    For a stock cooler. Those temps do not look to bad. Look into getting a aftermarket heatsink for your CPU. Their are some good cheap ones out on the market. As Ranger12 said, check out that guide. Its good a read.
  4. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Not at all, maybe driving stutter in Saints Row 3 and a tiny movement lag in Skyrim
  5. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I have no experience with computer, thats why I bought a pre-built one. But I'll try install one
  6. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Evangelist Posts: 827   +192

    It is pretty easy to install a new heatsink. In some cases, there will even be videos showing you how to install a certain heatsink.
  7. Ranger12

    Ranger12 TS Guru Posts: 620   +118

    Lag in skyrim=no surprise. Last time I played a few months ago some lag was just part of the game.
    You should be fine installing a heat sink. There's lots of guides and if you have any questions you can always ask here. That guide should help with overall airflow in your case which is important and can help lower the GPU temp and the CPU temp.
  8. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,146   +192

    Am I reading it right?

    Processor is at 64 dergrees
    Graphics card at 53 degrees

    I think this is very unusual in my opinion that a cpu would reach a higher temp than your gpu. Try a diffrent temprature monitor.
  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,675   +389

    I did some quick googling, and I believe the max temp for your CPU is 70C. You are still almost 10% under that. I wouldn't be too concerned. If you haven't already bought an aftermarket HSF, then I'd really consider how long you plan on keeping that system. I ran a 10% (I know not much) OC on a processor (Athlon T-Bird 1Ghz) for 7 or 8 years with the stock cooling before it died, and I'm not even sure it did die, the motherboard may have. I know they are totally different processors, but heat almost certainly shortens the life, but if the average lifespan is 7-10 years and its obsolete in 3-4, then are you really going to be sad if it doesn't work anymore after 5?

    My point is, you can get some more life out of it with a more expensive cooler, but is that life going to be any benefit to you?

    As for your graphics card, thats really cool, so like fimbles said, try another program. The good news is, those things can go up insanely high, perhaps as high as 120. I know that isn't a great source, but there are a couple comments, basically the point I took away was if you see anything lower than 90C you are totally fine for your GPU.
  10. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I'm thinking to keep the case permanently and just upgrade the components inside. Plus I got a 3 years warranty from the website I bought, problem is I think I might screw something up with all those cables inside the case if I were to replace the stock fan with something better.

    Oh and can you suggest me a better cooler? Budget is around 50-100$.
  11. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Oh and when you said its not gonna work anymore after 5 years, did you mean only the CPU? Or does the heat affect all components?
  12. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Took a picture of my case [​IMG]
  13. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Also, should I get the Hyper 212 Evo cooler?
  14. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Evangelist Posts: 827   +192

    The Evo is a great CPU cooler. You should be fine with it. I would also clean up some of those wires inside of your case. You want as much air flow as possible throughout the case.
  15. Wafflebutt

    Wafflebutt TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Do you think applying a new thermal paste (artic silver 5) would be as cool as a new cooler? I won't get paid until next month
  16. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Evangelist Posts: 827   +192

    You can apply new thermal paste. It may drop your temps by a couple degrees but not much. You want to invest in a new cooler to see any real difference. I do recommend applying new paste when you do get the new heatsink though. AS5 works great too.
  17. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,675   +389

    Heat affects the life of everything, but when I said 5 years, I wasn't implying everything is going to die in 5 years. I was just saying that if you run things really hot it may die in 5 rather than 8 or 10. I bet very few of us have ever used a component long enough to watch it die naturally. So if I were you, I would probably not change anything.

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