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Updating My Specs

By tskacoustic
Jun 7, 2013
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  1. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,970   +739

    Single channel RAM?...I just had to check that build...
    JC713 You're right on all counts.
    The PSU should be the first consideration when building a system- and a good PSU is a must, since a bad one has the ability to take down and damage the rest of the rig. I would have thought that the product reviews towards the bottom of the product page would have been a large red flag. Another possible problem down the line is that the PSU isn't compatible with Haswell's C6/C7 low power states ( an up to date list >>here<<).
    Odd that the PSU's advertising states that it is 80 Plus certified, yet it doesn't show up on the 80 Plus database
     
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  2. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,082   +920

    I never even knew Powercolor made PSUs.
     
  3. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,311   +551

    JC713 The Single Channel ram is not that big an issue and was put just to hold a place for future ram upgrades, but here is a 2x2 kit. As for the board, I personally like MSI boards and I have not had issues and know lots of people who love them. Heres an alternative Asus one instead.

    Ok I was ignoring that guy but since hes going to insult my build after I proved him wrong again I feel like responding. Powercolor is not a bad company and the reviews are fine, it has lots of good and only a few bad like any product does. As for the not on the 80+ database, well its probably overlooked or something. If you really have a problem with it, heres an alternative that is for sure on your list.

    My point is, you can get one and the focus should be in this order of parts.
    CPU
    MOBO
    PSU
    GPU
    HDD
    RAM
    CASE
    Everything can be upgraded beyond motherboard alot easier and the CPU and motherboard should be selected to last a good long time, PSU should be as well, but Powercolor is a good company or I would not have suggested it.
     
  4. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,082   +920

    PSUs are the base of a system and should be high quality.

    Having dual channel increases performance a ton. By placing RAM in dual channel configuration, you are basically doubling the bandwidth, which means twice as much data can be transferred at once. It depends on the application whether you see performance improvements or not. For example, in something like MS Office, you will see little improvement, but in applications like photo and video editing, you will see huge performance gains. Probably in gaming also. I know your 3dmark/benchmark scores increases a lot with dual channel vs single channel.
     
  5. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,311   +551

    Like I said before, the ram was mostly a place holder for upgrades. Yes I agree dual channel ram is more powerful, no one is arguing that point.

    As for the psu, it's a central point yes, but there's nothing wrong with powercolor, I like their stuff and that psu had decent reviews, the only thing I forgot was the haswell compatibility. The corsair resolves that issue.
     
  6. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,970   +739

    Wrong company. PowerColor ( a division of TUL) make one PSU.
    Powercool on the other hand are a budget OEM line made by a company calling itself Jou Jye Electronic Co. Ltd. (Their build is proprietary)
    Really? You think what I wrote is an insult ? Get some help buddy. If you think posting a sensible observation is an insult because it conflicts with your world view, then start buying Kleenex in bulk.
    Powercool NOT PowerColor.
    If the PSU is fine why is a 750 watt PSU's combined 12V rails only rated at 34 amps ? 34A * 12V = 408 Watts ?
    How many decent 750 watt PSU's are equipped with only two graphics PCI-E cables ?
    Yeah, that's probably it....overlooked since 2011.

    /back on ignore
     
  7. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,311   +551

    First off, you fail at quoting. Second likewise back on ignore I'm sorry I read any of your ignorant responses.

    The only thing I missed was the name powercool which my phone autocorrects because it has seen it placed so many times before.

    Once again, ignoring the focus which was you can build a 4670k system for that price range.

    Apologies to the thread owner, but his constant fighting everything I do is getting on my nerves.

    Anyway that system specs is just fine, plus it leaves plenty of room for upgrading down the road. Intel processors can live on the stock cooler and the overall specs should perform the hosts needs.
     
  8. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,082   +920

    Lol DBZ, you quoted me by mistake ;).
     
  9. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,970   +739

    Oops. Sorry if I made it sound like you were supplying hastily made and poorly executed excuses :eek: ...the excuse is now attributed to its rightful owner.
     
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  10. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,311   +551

    You still failed to fix a quote still, guess you don't understand how to using the quoting system properly.

    Grow up and actually debate, jc knows how to talk to people, maybe you should take lessons from him on how to help people and debate (and too quote apparently).

    Back to the article, so if we swap out the complaint parts with the options, a uk 4670k build is possible or a 3570k build at a 500 euro budget. Which will last quite a lot longer than an i3 build.
     
  11. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,082   +920

    It is alright my friend.
     
     
  12. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,082   +920

    (y) Thanks man.
     
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  13. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,311   +551

    No problem jc713, your fun to talk with. That guy above is just pretending to have a level of knowledge above everyone else which is getting annoying.

    But anyway, yeah, I'm still waiting now for a post from the author to see what he likes/decides or what not.
     
  14. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,970   +739

    Where you're concerned it isn't pretending.
    Whats to debate? The OP wanted suggestions on a build- all you have to do is supply the COMPATIBLE parts list and observe THE BUDGET.
    So far you've demonstrated:
    How to ignore taking geographic location into account
    How not to observe a budget
    An inability to parse component specifications
    Combining a non-Haswell ready PSU with a Haswell based system
    Tried to justify single channel RAM on the basis of being a placeholder, when it's obvious to everyone else that upgrading to dual channel makes less economic sense than just buying a dual module kit to start with.

    Now, if you think that I'm insulting you right now then maybe, just maybe, it gives you pause for thought and actually spend some time researching the parts list for the next person who wants a compatible system within budget.
    And as for the "insults"...
    Feel free to report any post here that you feel "insults" you. My guess is that the mods can't see into your invisible world, and...
    Kind of looks like you lost using your metric of your own appropriated and trite signature:
    [​IMG]

    /Back to your regular programming
    //Back on ignore
     
  15. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,506   +238

    Gentle members, please be reminded that the purpose of this thread is to help the OP with his/her question not to debate or argue tangential issues. Wrong forum. This is not TS News and Comments or Articles and Reviews Comments. You can always continue your discussion through "Conversations" if you really feel the need.
     
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