Just thought id let u guys know i bought a 260gtx in the end but it wouldnt fit (it blocked my sata ports stupid micro atx) no one mentioned that so maybe make a note that any card above a 9800gt will not fit a micro atx (if your sata ports are at the far right edge of your mother board) so i got a 9800 gt single slot card that fits nicely and compared to my 9500gt i get on a benchmark 3d test on performance test 7 ) over 500 fps on medium up from 130 and 70 fps on complicated up from 30 also now fallout 3 auto sets to high settings from low (still ultra high to go but ahh well) So i am very happy with my upgrade and very thank full for all your help in choosing / upgrading my machine . my idle temp for gpu before was 39 and 59 max load now its 45 idle and 73 on highest setting in game is that ok or too high ? also in evga precision my fan speed auto increases as heat goes up but doesnt go back down is that normal ?? i have to untick auto on fan speed, move the fan speed higher or lower, and then it will begin to fall bk to its idle speed is that normal will it hit its peak and stay there even once its cooled down to its idle of 45 or do u think evga is interfering..