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Upgrading CPU from Intel P3 sl3xy 1.65v to Celeron sl5vr1.5v ?

By kenwas
Jan 12, 2011
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  1. hi yall
    well im trying to make a fraink-n-stine

    can I upgreading cpu from
    intel p3 sl3xy 733/256/133/1.65v too
    Intel celeron sl5vr 1300/256/100/1.5v

    and is it an upgread or a down-gread cuse of FSB is lower ?

    Gateway - 2510250 Intel (Fedora) motherboard
    grafix : gforc fx 5200 128mb
    Mem : 256 pci 133 , 128 pci 133 , 128 pci 100

    any info will be grand
    thanxs in advance
     
  2. kenwas

    kenwas TS Rookie Topic Starter

    any-1

    well any-1 have any input..I realy need to know if the mobo can run ether cpu's ..dont want to fry any thaing >_< (1.5v vrs 1.65v)
     
  3. JMMD

    JMMD TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 854

    Looking at the specifications for the motherboard it sounds like it would work but I can't guarantee it.
     
  4. kenwas

    kenwas TS Rookie Topic Starter

    updat

    well

    I put the 1300mz celeron in.No boot now no beeps and no post.
    so im thainking maby the bios needs updated!
     
  5. kenwas

    kenwas TS Rookie Topic Starter

    bios update

    well bios did not work thaing is gatway web sit stat's the mod # I have suported PIII and Celeron. seams on the page that had the bios update only displayed the mobo and pIII.NO Celeron!!

    so now...

    whats beader :


    Gateway - 2510250 Intel (Fedora) motherboard
    grafix : gforc fx 5200 128mb
    Mem : 256 pci 133 , 128 pci 133 , 128 pci 100
    intel p3 sl3xy 733/256/133/1.65v

    OR

    Qompaq presario 5000
    grafix : gforc fx 5200 128mb
    Mem : 256 pci 133 , 128 pci 133
    Intel celeron sl5vr 1300/256/100/1.5v
     
  6. kenwas

    kenwas TS Rookie Topic Starter

    any-1 have a voice on this ?

    any-1 have a voice on this ?

    I realy cant decide ..

    im locking for the best to run a few game's called "Guild wars Prophesies" and "Diablo II"
     
  7. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,608   +295

    Celeron:
    http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27169

    Pentium III:
    http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27550

    At twice the processor speed I don't think even the superior FSB of the pentium is worth considering. I'd say the Celeron would be the better option, the 1300Mhz speed should be the better pairing with the graphics card. Do you have both these machines? If so you could try benchmarking Guild Wars (not sure if it has its own tools, never tried it) and Diablo II shouldn't be an issue to run on either machine given the games age. If there are no tools to benchmark Guild Wars you can try a free version of Fraps which will show you the frames per second within the game to give an indication if one pc is better at running the game than the other.

    Otherwise you can try some general benchmarking like 3dmark vantage, 3dmark 2011, Sisoft Sandra 2011 on both machines and see which scores higher.

    Obviously you can only perform these tests if you have access to both machines :)
     
  8. kenwas

    kenwas TS Rookie Topic Starter

    ok sounds good ..
    thanx for the input
    :)
     
  9. kenwas

    kenwas TS Rookie Topic Starter

    for any one that was folowing the post

    funy..

    well I Try the:
    Gateway - 2510250 Intel (Fedora) motherboard
    grafix : gforc fx 5200 128mb
    Mem : 256 pci 133 , 128 pci 133 , 128 pci 100
    intel p3 sl3xy 733/256/133/1.65v

    and now I setup and instaled the:
    Qompaq presario 5000
    grafix : gforc fx 5200 128mb
    Mem : 256 pci 133 , 128 pci 133
    Intel celeron sl5vr 1300/256/100/1.5v

    seems the 128mb RAM and the 133 FSB made all the diferance..never ran benchmark program but the guild wars game runs realy lagy now..

    funy thaing is I found a realy old pc in my closet :
    ABIT BH6 = suports overcloking
    grafix : gforc fx 5200 128mb
    3 slot RAM card's up to 768
    cpu is a slot... LOL..... I just need a slocket
     
  10. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,608   +295

    A slocket, geez, that was a long time ago :D
    You'd might be better selling the computers for scrap or putting on EBay and using any money you can get towards a new one.

    With that said I really wouldn't think the ram and the higher FSB would make the 733Mhz P3 out perform the 1300Mhz Celeron. There are other factors to consider like the Cache sizes on the processors, architectural differences etc, but really thought that almost double the processor speed would almost make those negligible. Since all the ram you have a whole lot of PC133 ram, you could put 2 x 256 into the Celeron system, or more if you have additional slots for the PC133 128mb stick. To make a useful comparison between the systems you should try and keep as many components identical as possible, therefore seeing the actual difference the processor makes. Try both machines when putting the 2 x 256mb PC133 ram into them.

    Also given the age of these machines you might find that they can be slow and sluggish when they have very fragmented hard disks, especially when for the disks with the Operating System on them. Ideally you'd want to do a fresh install of the OS on a hard disk and install the latest graphics card drivers that support the card you have. That way you are then ruling out another factor. But if this is not possible or just a pain in the *** then you could at least run a registry cleaner, spyware tool (I use spybot myself) and defrag. Should be some downloads available from Techspot to cater for these types of tools.
     
  11. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,702   +1,886

    As always, I like to argue semantics, and say rude things. So, here's my question, "if we call one of these machines an "upgrade" over the other, what do we call the first machine an upgrade from, an abacus"?

    Sorry, no self control.

    No really, I'm sorry.
     
  12. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,608   +295

    LOL.

    I was going to suggest that they sold the two machines for scrap and put the money towards something newer :)

    Good luck whatever you do Kenwas. Let us know how you get on.
     

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