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User-made patch restores Windows Update for blocked processors

By Cal Jeffrey ยท 84 replies
Apr 20, 2017
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  1. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,222   +723

    you obviously haven't used win 7 before SP1. I used win 7 from the beta to the latest versions and I can assure you that after thousands of installs it had a ton of bugs, blue screens galore. before the 8.1 version, win 8 also had some big problems.
    But since win 10 builds on top of win 8.1 major bugs are rare. I'm not saying that they don't exist, but it's clearly a much more stable OS than 7 or 8. It's also much easier to fix win 10 than win 7.
     
  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,006   +3,168

    So did I. And for a short time I was a moderator on a Windows 7 Forum. While what you say may be true. I can assure you Windows 10 bugs the **** out of me way more than Windows 7 ever did. And to get back on topic of bugs, the new creators build (Build 1703) freezes my system. At first I thought it may have been the upgrade I did instead of a clean install. I performed a clean install and only had two applications installed and downloading the third when the system froze again. I've had to fall back to 1511/1607, where I don't have any system freezes. So from my perspective things are not getting better.

    And Microsoft is still intentionally breaking third party applications with new builds. Applications of which they are forcefully trying to get people to move away from.
     
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  3. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,222   +723

    I've been using the beta builds of win 10 since the first ones and I had no such problems. it may be something specific to a driver of your system. is your BIOS also fully updated?
    did you look at the event viewer to see if there are any reports that might help you figure out what is crashing?
    I've fixed an win7 laptop this weekend that had crashes and errors by looking in the event viewer.
     
  4. Impudicus

    Impudicus TS Member

    Future Windows 7 updates will slowly break, and slow down windows 7 machines. Until they are almost unusable and everyone will have to upgrade. It's the Microsoft way.
     
  5. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 1,344   +417

    Excuse me?

    I've been using Windoze since 3.1, and most every release of windoze except Vista, ME, RT and the server versions. I had 64-bit XP (and still have one system running it) when it was fresh off the presses.

    Like I said to Skidmarksdelux, my experience with 10 is that it is LESS stable than 8.1 or 7. In fact, my experience is that it is the most UNSTABLE release of windows since Windows NT. Service packs, now called updates (for obvious marketing reasons) were usually guaranteed to break the entire OS at the time of NT. And with the major bugs in 10 that affect my systems, I have turned off updates altogether because I don't have the time to clean up the M$ mess.

    10 is certainly nowhere near stable enough, IMO, for businesses to adopt. But then again, we are not talking BETA releases are we? 10, in theory, has been post beta since what, July of 16? And it still has major bugs that break subsystems like WiFi hot spots to the point of not being able to remedy the problem at all except to go back to my image backup. 8.1 updates never managed to break WiFi hot spots. I suppose the fact that 10 breaks WiFi hot spots is considered a Feature that users who employ them are supposed to love by M$.

    I don't want my systems to turn into useless trash every time I apply an "update." Until M$ delivers an update that will not break something I am using in my systems, I'm not wasting my time with their useless updates.
     
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  6. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,222   +723

    you don't understand at all what system destroying bugs are. I don't care that you've used windows since 3.1, everyone here who's not a kid has done it (or at least win 95 if they are younger).
    your wifi hotspot problem isn't common and it also certainly didn't make your system unusable. I've not met a single person with this problem and it also didn't appear on any of the systems I've installed. it's most likely a driver issue which is unfortunate, but that's life. drivers will always be problematic when upgrading your OS.

    Here's an example of a bug that's actually important:
    I recently had to repair a laptop with windows 7 for a friend who was using it at work (a medic). when he was trying to install some important applications for his work, he was getting errors. his OS was also loading very slowly.
    It turns out that some updates weren't installed correctly for the .net framework. After uninstalling everything and reinstalling it took a very long time for updates to reappear in windows update and when it was installing it blue screened at 90%. I won't go into details but I had to waste hours with recovery tools to backup his data and fix the OS.
    after that it literally took all night to install the needed updates because "windows update" wasn't giving me anything for hours.

    in general in windows 10's updates do not cause so many problems because when the PC crashes during the update process, windows reverts the changes. you also have a neat feature called "reset this PC" for really bad situations (or you can go back to a previous build).

    "borked updates" --> that's a system breaking bug, something which requires an IT specialist to fix and can cause permanent damage to your data.

    I remember installing win7 in schools in hundreds of PC during college (work as IT assistant) and god... the number of problems was incredible. until SP1 was released it was a nightmare and after that it was a still very bad.
     
  7. Ascaris

    Ascaris TS Booster Posts: 95   +52

    So you only run software that has been vetted by experts and that is published by huge corporations that are afraid of class-action suits (which, according to your own example, doesn't even work)?

    Your choice. Kinda limits your options, though. It also doesn't address the point that I made that an installer that can modify system files is no more dangerous that one that registers .DLLs and modifies the registry-- that is, all of them. It's either trustworthy or it's not, regardless of whether it patches files or not.

    As for that timer... we're going on well over a quarter of a century so far... still waiting for that implosion.
     
  8. Phr3d

    Phr3d TS Guru Posts: 344   +70

    "windows 8.0 is Perfect, and if you'll only get this, and this, and this et al patch/mod/tweak, it will behave Exactly like windows 7 since you are unable to keep up with the times and use the correct OS!!!"
    "windows 8.1 is Perfect, and if you'll only get this, and this, and this et al patch/mod/tweak, it will behave Exactly like windows 7 since you are unable to keep up with the times and use the correct OS!!!"
    "windows 8.2 is Perfect, and if you'll only get this, and this, and this et al patch/mod/tweak, it will behave Exactly like windows 7 since you are unable to keep up with the times and use the correct OS!!!"

    rinse, repeat

    reputation is meaningless, past is past, get with the program and succumb to the inevitable, so say we few..
    c u in a decade, see also "still very bad".
     
  9. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 1,189   +482

    Or we can look at the new ransomware that is infecting everyone.... those of you content with Windows versions that no longer receive updates... hope you enjoy paying some hacker to release your computer :)

    Just upgrade to Windows 10, keep current updates, and stop whining...
     
  10. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,174   +2,144

    Face it, you're most likely not important enough to be worried about ransomware anyway

    , I know I'm not, and makes all this sh!t about, "you must upgrade to Window 10", irrelevant and moot......While I'm here...... XP forever!
     
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