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Using windows on new computer

Discussion in 'Windows OS' started by twite, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Spike Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,371

    No problem Twite. We're glad to have been of help :)
  2. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,908   +77

    From Newegg anyway, an OEM copy of XP Home is about $90 and a retail version is about $199. It's a bit less expensive if you buy volume. Anyway, you can see why they install OEM instead of retail. Also, I don't begrudge companies who make computers from making a buck. That's the whole reason they're in business. They don't make money selling at cost. And this is one of the reasons people build their own computer which is to save the money that companies want to make.
  3. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Their is a difference between making a buck, and making a billion bucks.
    If it was a local small gain company, i would understand. With a billion dollar empire like microsoft..It is more then making a buck..IMO, it is greed..but, i guess that is what a business is all about, and thats why microsoft is so succesful.
  4. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,908   +77

    Actually I was talking more about the company who built the computer who installed and charged for the OEM version of Windows, not so much Microsoft itself. But with regard to Microsoft, you're right. It's just business.
  5. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Yeh..i agree with you on that..i just feel that they should give you the choice of buying the non OEM version of windows...but as you said, i don't begrade those companies for costs...most of their parts are retail prices, or less..they make most of their money buying the products wholesale.
  6. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    that's called business. There's nothing wrong with making a profit. It's what makes the world go 'round and pays your salary and many other benefits. Sure capitalism has its drawbacks, but it's the best system the world has to offer. Microsoft is entitled to make money like any other business.

    I don't think your alternative (stealing) is better.
     
  7. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Since when has this been my alternative?
  8. Spike Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,371

    Sorry Tedster, but Twite has a point. I didn't see that implied either.
  9. alidabiri Newcomer, in training Posts: 540

    this is the partial text of EULA from c:\windows\system32 folder:

    That was a lot of text pasted there. I hope you don't mind my having uploaded it as a txt attachment - Spike
  10. Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    This is your box product license. Compare with the attached OEM XP Professional EULA.
  11. alidabiri Newcomer, in training Posts: 540

    NO, that IS the oem eula. i just printed it out of hp machine at work. i was preloaded and purchased that way.
  12. Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    No, it is not the OEM EULA.. Maybe it is a volume license? Did that HP have a COA sticker on it? What is written on that sticker? And of course, whoever supplied that HP may have made a "mistake". And of course, Windows may have been reinstalled on that machine too, using any Windows CD that was available.

    The EULA I posted is from an XP installation from a manufacturer-provided CD and the COA sticker on the machine (originally came with Windows preinstalled).
  13. Spike Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,371

    The EULA Nodsu has posted is most definitely the correct one. It IS the WinXP OEM EULA without any doubt, and it ties in exactly with what MS are officially saying on their site.

    Nodsu is absolutely 100% correct (as per usual :) ).
  14. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Ok..well im ordering parts for a new computer, and windows xp..so how would i put my old hard drive in my new computer? Do i have to format it first, or can i boot with that hard drive and then install windows?
  15. Spike Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,371

    Put the old HD in the new computer, and boot from your XP CD or the setup floppies provided by MS. From there you will be able to delete any partitions on the disk if you so wish.
  16. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    well, i dont wish to delete my files if i dont have to.. can i just delete the windows partion and then reinstall windows
  17. Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    Yes, you can delete of format only the Windows partition too.
  18. alidabiri Newcomer, in training Posts: 540

    nodsu,
    my pc at work, is a pre-loaded hp p-4 machine. it has a hologram sticker on the side. and it's an oem sticker. and it has it's own cd that came with it. i know for a fact, that you can transfer os to another pc, if you deleted it from the original machine. this is done many times at every shop. and when the pc's are discarded through surplus property, MIS dept. erases them clean.
  19. Spike Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,371

    Then they either have something special going on, have a volume license that's preinstalled on their machines, or are doing so illegally. That's one of the sorts of things that MS are failing WGA validations on. It's not allowed!

    If you would like to take your observations of the company you work for over the official line of MS and over the advice we offer here after much research then by all means do so, but please do not persist in posting incorrect information here!
  20. alidabiri Newcomer, in training Posts: 540

    spike, with all due respect, i'm not posting "incorrect" information. my work place is one of the biggest clients of microsoft and hp. microsoft and hp people visit here for workshops, etc. occasionally. it's not proper, to label these observations as wholesale belief that you do. i posted what i'm seeing.