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Valve: L4D2 runs 20% faster on Ubuntu than Windows 7

By Rick
Aug 2, 2012
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  1. With the advent of Steam landing on Linux drawing closer, Windows vs. Linux comparisons will become an inevitability. Although Valve's effort to port Steam over to Linux fans is still a work in progress, some onlookers may be surprised at……

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  2. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Guru Posts: 802   +87

    L4D2 looks amazing in 3D. I think Valve has an excellent engine. Comparing visual quality, FPS, and flexibility, it beats any other engine.
     
  3. von kain

    von kain TS Rookie

    32gb ram on an x86 os? doesnt that means it will be able to use under 4 gb of ram?
     
  4. great so now I'll get 240fps instead of 200 fps.*rolls eyes* The game is already ultra efficient as hell on Win7, so this is all pointless.
     
  5. utdream

    utdream TS Rookie

    You can use more then 4GB on a 32-bit machine using PAE (Physical Address Extension: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension), but I thought that was interesting as well. Doesn't seem as efficient.
     
  6. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Posts: 968   +118

    It was just the control. Both systems have to be identical if you want to test the difference in the OS.
     
  7. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 1,951   +388

    how dare they make their game more accessible. how dare someone actually want to make a good procuct.
     
  8. Obvious troll.

    This is superb news, and I'm really glad Valve are porting their games to Linux.

    Valve has demonstrated that Linux gives you a 20% performance improvement over Windows.
    Gamers notoriously tinker with overclocking to get their FPS up.
    I'll wager that within 2 years, Linux will be the preferred platform for hardcore gamers.
     
  9. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,915   +718

    Sweet....
    The majority of PC gamers are bemoaning "console posts" and wish D3DX9 games would just quietly fade away. How well does a linux distro handle games coded for DX11/11.1 API ?
    Isn't it obvious? Less overhead. Windows is pretty much plug and play with virtually all hw/sw......linux ? Jack-of-all-trades usually means sacrificing specialization for a broad range of applications. Windows handles DirectX and OpenGL, along with all the graphical options available to the drivers CP - How much of this is available in Linux?

    Quite a full court press regarding Valve's Steambox/linux promo - the article today, the Stallman pronouncement a couple of days ago, likewise the Gabe Newell rhetoric ...unfortunately the truck-and-trailer approach tends to cast an shadow of cynicism.

    So yay for linux and L4D2, but I wouldn't read a great deal into it.
     
  10. VALVE saying one VALVE game runs better on an OS it's trying to do business with? Hmm...

    What about other non-VALVE games? What about a game that use DirectX 11?

    Not trying to say VALVE is being biased but it would certainly look better if a different company did this with different and up-to-date games.
     
  11. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    Why is everyone surprised? Ubuntu made my 10, er 12 year old computer boot like a i7.
     
     
  12. What I don't understand is why Valve is so determined on nitpicking on Microsoft and their technologies. Perhaps they have some sort of grudge?
     
  13. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    They should test this against DirectX 11.1. Otherwise, doesn't seem very fair.
     
  14. Det

    Det TS Rookie Posts: 84

    It doesn't seem fair that they're not using the absolutely most-bloated DirectX version there is? Doubt it's OpenGL 4.2 they're using either. The newer versions just basically _add_ features. This means that the newer, more visually stunning versions of OpenGL and Direct3D are _slower_ than their predecessors.

    Try Windows 8 and say that again. Gabe doesn't hold any grudge against MS. It's just the stupid Windows 8 that people (including him (and myself)) hate.
     
  15. Det

    Det TS Rookie Posts: 84

    And the same thing here. DirectX 11 games are not "faster" than DirectX 9. The more "up-to-date" games with DirectX 11 would require comparison with OpenGL 4.2, which would require shedloads of rewrites for a lot of stuff in the project. And then think that you'd actually have to equally optimize both to get a result that you could even somewhat realisticly rely on.
     
  16. bnathan

    bnathan TS Rookie

    Valve are only protecting their investment in Steam. If I spent the last 10 years building the number one games distribution service and then Microsoft who controls the PC industry is now launching Windows 8 which has a store to purchase games wouldn't you be afraid??? The more fear that Valve generates over Windows 8 the more sales they are likely to retain. Its pretty petty but that's why Valve is pissed at Microsoft pure and simple. Windows 8 is a faster version of Windows 7 with a new start menu instead of it popping on the bottom left its full screen. What's to hate?
     
  17. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,915   +718

    It would be pretty poor form if he did considering he worked for them for thirteen years and made most of his initial millions via MS
    Well actually he reserves some hate for PS3 but lurves Xbox...
    No. That's not right. He reserves hate for Xbox but lurves PS3
     
  18. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Enthusiast Posts: 231   +7

    They changed the picture for this article. Lol.
     
  19. bench something that is not crappy and then we'll talk.
     
  20. IF we can get major titles on Linux it will be fantastic.

    It will also breathe new life in to a sluggish PC market.
     
  21. On the specific news that this particular game runs faster on Linux than Windows is nice but not really a huge deal. The big news is that a game originally designed for Windows is running natively on Linux and can be purchased via Steam and that Valve is showing a way for game companies to expand their market to Linux. This is a big win for Linux and should help it to become a better platform in general.
     
  22. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    Your comment makes no sense. What makes you think the latest versions of OpenGL and DirectX are actually <I>slower</I> than their predecessors? So by your logic DirectX 9 is faster than DirectX 10? Please.

    And no, Gabe just said that because the inclusion of the Windows Store is a threat to Steam. And you and others don't hate Windows 8, you hate the Start Screen.
     
  23. Joel F

    Joel F TS Rookie

    My gaming rig is Ubuntu 10.10 that I first customized with the UCK. I have GCC 4.7.1 with CUDA libraries. I compiled WINE 1.5.9 with OpenCL support and optimised with -bdver1 (The new AMD CPU that Windows seems to struggle with). Things run very smoothly. There are only a handful of games that run poorly like TFC2 and I haven't figured it out. Diablo III and WoW run silky smooth. I play Mirror's Edge and GTA IV.

    Ubuntu is just way faster all around, has more visual bling, more fun to use, highly customisable, and runs faster just based on not having to run an antivirus software in the background.

    I quit using all Windows OSs back in 2010 when I tried out Ubuntu and it worked, out of the box, much better than Windows without having to download stupid drivers or getting a virus. :)
     
  24. Det

    Det TS Rookie Posts: 84

    Yes. A game optimized for DirectX 9 runs worse with 11. And games with improved graphics run worse than without them. DirectX 11 in itself was basically just a performance update.

    Wrong. He said it because it really _does_ suck.

    And I hate Windows 8 because Metro is part of Windows 8. The Start Screen is not the only part of it. The menu was removed too.
     
  25. I wager that in 2 years you'll still be wrong. Linux has never been and will never be a viable gaming platform. Game makers follow the money and since Linux will never be a mainstream OS there will never be a market for Linux gaming. /thread
     


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