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Wanting to build a PC

Discussion in 'Overclocking, Cooling and Modding' started by JackGallagher, Apr 11, 2007.

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  1. I've never heard of a Pentium 4 Dual core.

    I have heard of Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds dual core and Core 2 Duos.
  2. morid_dll Newcomer, in training

    I am wondering if there is any way to build or customize a laptop with the specifications below:

    20.1" LCD Monitor
    HDD 400+ GB
    1Gb enhanced Vedio card
    Core 2 duo processor or what they call them Extreme with 2.30+ Ghz
    4+ Gb RAM running at 600+ Mhz

    No matter how much it cost. If sepecifications found in a particular laptop, I will certainly buy it.

    I am really serious about having all those properties. I am a game lover I have certain games that give me a hard time to run on my computer, such as Sniper Elite, Company of heroes...... My computer is just considered absolete and should not still be existed on this modern planet

    I've been looking and searching over the internet for the best ultimate high performance laptop, but it seems whenever they improve someting like a 1Gb Graphics card, they lower something else like the RAM to 2Gb, I mean why can't the 4Gb RAM be with 1Gb vedio card on a laptop? Why 4GB RAM with 512mb nVidia installed with AMD Athlon not Core Duo processor? Why you can find all the above met together except for the monitor it is 15.5" or bit larger? I couldn't find a laptop with the above specfications, so hopefully someone would be able to help me get thru with that.
  3. captaincranky TechSpot Addict

    Yes, Mostly.....

    the Intel Board (retail DG965WH) comes with 2 SATA + 1 IDE Cable, RAID driver disc, DVD with drivers & "Value Added" software (see Intel's web site for details)

    A "Retail Boxed Processor" comes with a heatsink/fan & w/ thermal material applied.

    Cases normally come with all necessary hardware.

    Retail hard drives come with cables (at least WD, SATA). Normally DVD & PATA drives do not come with IDE cables, (see board) 1 IDE cable = 2 drives

    If you buy retail packages, normally you get enough hardware to complete the install.

    I reread your price estimates & they're 10% to 20% above continental US.
    I guess that's the nature of the current market.
  4. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord

    @morid_dll, try here. Good luck with your purchase.
  5. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord

    @JackGallagher, yeah they come with all the wires and cables you'll need. Also, for the video card, you might want to consider the video card I recommended earlier, since it offers much better gaming performance than NVIDIA's new 86xx series.

    I think that's because of the VAT on PC hardware in the UK. :)
  6. CMH TechSpot Chancellor

    Hmm.... Are you sure that the X1950Pro beats the new 8600 series? I haven't even seen too many benchmarks yet, and according to the hardocp review, the 8600 (OC edition unfortunately) beats the X1950pro.

    However, thats the only review I've read. I also find it hard to believe that nVidia would release a new graphic card at the same price as its competitor's, and have it run slower.
  7. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord

    Look here and here. The X1950PRO even beats the 8600GTS as well, and by a good margin too. DX10 performance might be a different scene altogether though, but I have my doubts even on this. If it can't handle DX9 well, how can it handle the more complex DX10 properly?
    As for the HardOCP review, it's the only one positive about the card on the net. I'm part of the HardForum and there's a debate raging about this there ATM. Apparently, they used a Made-by-ATi version of the X1950PRO while they used 3rd-party versions of the 8600. Obviously, that particular X1950PRO is more expensive than the others from Sapphire etc. and also has lower clocks (I think) thus the difference in performance. But rebuttals from the reviewer state that he does not use timedemos, but actually plays through the game in order to reach his conclusion. But then, does that mean everyone else's results are wrong and HardOCP's are right? I for one, don't think so.
  8. morid_dll Newcomer, in training

    Hey Rage_3K_Moiz, These laptops are just fantastic. I absolutely have nothing to comment about them machines, but I am afraid of one thing because these laptops doesn't seem to be known or familiar to me. I have been searching the Internet for the last 3 months for laptops and their specifications, so I am like having a good experience and I can actually tell everything about such a computer I have read about. But those laptops I absolutely have no idea what they are and how is their performance or most importantly their system responsiveness.

    The most powerful computers I have seen so far are the DELL XPS M2010 for its 4GB RAM,256mb 1800 XT (low Mbs installed which is not recommended that much), and 2.33Ghz Core 2 Duo 2MB L2 Cache, and it's 20.1" intelligent LCD, and 8 integrated speakers with 1 subwoofer!. Cost about ($6200+ customized)

    And the ALIENWARE AURORA MALX for its AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML44 2.4GHz 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache(which is a processor that I don't prefer to have on my laptop if I am to spend more than 4Gs), 1GB NVidia GeForce Go 7900 GTX SLI, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD @7,200 RPM, and finally its super clear glare 19" LCD. Cost about ($6000+ costumized)

    So I don't know which one I am supposed to buy, I need some sort of ultimate massive high performance laptop that beats all them latops around the whole world. Cost? Doesn't really matter at all, and I buy ten of them if I wanted to do so.
  9. morid_dll Newcomer, in training

    Check out this crazy heavily customized Ailenware Tower below, and tell me what you think about this machine. But I am not going to buy a desktop! lol.

    Copied Actual specifications of customized "Area-51 ALX" from www.alienware.com

    Area-51® ALX

    Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme QX6700 2.66GHz 8MB Cache 1066MHz FSB - Overclocked to 3.2GHz!

    Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium - With no Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
    Chassis: Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Saucer Silver
    Chassis Customization : Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue
    High-Performance Liquid Cooling: Alienware® ALX High-Performance Liquid Cooling
    Motherboard: Alienware® Approved NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Motherboard
    Memory: 4GB Low Latency DDR2 Performance SDRAM at 1066MHz - 4 x 1024MB
    System Drive: Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 1TB (2 x 500GB) Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ 2 x 16MB Cache
    Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 18X Dual Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Burner w/ Nero Software
    Graphics Processor: Dual 768MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8800 GTX - SLI Enabled
    Power Supply: Alienware® 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
    Physics Processing Unit: Ageia PhysX PCI-Express Processing Unit w/ 128MB GDDR3 - Intensified Gaming Visual Effects!
    Monitor: 37'' Westinghouse 1920 x 1080 Widescreen Flat Panel - Supports Blu-Ray!
    Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Keyboard: Logitech® G15 Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse : Logitech® G5 Laser Gaming Mouse
    Exclusive ALX Extras: AlienInspection - Exclusive Integration and Inspection - $100 Value - FREE!
    Exclusive ALX Extras: AlienWiring - Exclusive Internal Wire Management - $100 Value - FREE!
    Exclusive ALX Extras: Exclusive Alienware® ALX Items
    Exclusive ALX Extras: Alienware® ALX Mousepad
    Exclusive ALX Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
    Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support with Onsite Service
    AlienRespawn: Alienware® Respawn Recovery Kit

    Just about $8300 or so.
  10. captaincranky TechSpot Addict

    Buy 2.....

    One for the web and 1 for gaming.
  11. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord

    The Executioner Laptop from KillerNoteBooks has been reviewed by Tom's Hardware here and by TechWare labs here. It is quite a bit cheaper than the Alienware laptops and has the Core 2 Duo too. Only thing is, it doesn't have dual video cards. But it still is a very powerful gaming laptop. If you do want dual video cards, try the Assassin-X2. Fully decked out, it still works out cheaper than the Alienware Aurora mALX with the same specifications.
  12. captaincranky TechSpot Addict

    Danger, risk of fire, check the batteries...

    I take it the laptop would insure that no gaming withdrawal symptoms occurred should the necessity arise to leave the house.

    Oh, it sounds as though you might have to plug the AC adapters to these things into a separate circuit.
  13. CMH TechSpot Chancellor

    Rage_3K_Moiz, I think you misunderstood me.

    I never said that the X1950Pro is definately inferior, in fact, I did mention that I only read one review. I am trained for research, and all my training says: don't trust one single article. No matter how trustworthy the writers are (Hardocp has pretty good reviews imo, mainly cause they're different).

    Thanks for the links, I'll read through them later.

    p.s, I JUST bought an X1950Pro, with the knowledge that the 8600 series were on its way out.
  14. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord

    I didn't direct all that specifically at you CMH. They were just rhetorical questions! ;)
    Also, I'm a university student and even I was taught not to trust everything, but the fact that the other reviews are from equally reputed sites like AnandTech just had me wondering about the credibility of the one from HardOCP, that's all.
  15. Myzz617 Newcomer, in training

    People prefer nvidia. I would definitely buy one of their cards if you intend on gaming. Tools is only a screw driver and mayb phillips and flat head. Dont know anything about the U.K but building a PC is difinitely not that hard.

    As for Alienware Computers, they SUCK..Too much money!
  16. CMH TechSpot Chancellor

    Rage_3K_Moiz: Okay :D

    Went to those sites, and you seem to be right. Some new reviews also show the same results, and any performance lead seems negligible anyway.

    Seems like my choice of the X1950Pro is a good one.
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