Well I took the plunge...LongHorn Beta 2

By SOcRatEs
May 11, 2005
  1. I'll post back here from time to time to share out any trouble or?
    So far it is only a clean install, upgrade disabled. I used Acronis true image on my XP pro install. That way I can recover in about 11 mins..
    I'm currently installing it on my second pc.
    (please look at my profile)
    wish me some luck...
    Well that was a buggy P.O.S.!
    Took about 20 mins outta my life.
    It was worth it to take a look.
    Install was clean tho that was the longest 10 min hardware detect...LOL
    was unable to install any MoBo resources. no pci devices detected. Hmmmm?
    LH hated any installs I through at it, Nvidia and so on (it did not lock up at all!).
    Maybe MS is on to something, but they did not show it to me in this beta 2 release. I think maybe LH needs more time in the oven at higher temp!
    Cool start!
    I think maybe I just like to freak myself out!
  2. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,000   +15

    Tell us about any quirks, bugs, etc.... you find!
    Or any other new stuff that's cool to use.
  3. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966

    Failed beta testor

    I don't yet have access to MS beta testor web site.

    First of all the iso image I got was 751 mb's
    meaning it has to be bruned to DVD. Kewl
    (MS maybe intending on alot more OS?)
    It was bootable tho I launched it from XP home.
    Install routine had minimal info, just seemed to hang on
    one window w/o progress indicator. 3 reboots, 20 mins
    or less to install

    As I stated before upgrade was disabled and offered only clean install.
    Beta 2 has 180 day limit, and does need to activate within 30 days.
    I was told that all XP drivers would work (backward compat).
    LH b2 had no hardware compat testing.

    I tried to install MoBo cd, LH would have no part of it. I got
    stuck in a loop with error " No PCI devices Detected" OK.
    It took 12 clicks on OK before LH released the error.

    Basically LH has the same look and feel as XP, nuthin impressive yet :confused:
    I'm sorry to say I did'nt keep it long enough to learn more...
    I will be talking to the beta testor that gave me LH to find out if I did somthing wrong.
    I will try again in a day or so :hotbounce
  4. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,000   +15

    From my understanding there will be a lot of devices that won't work with LH until the drivers are updated or the hardware can be somehow made to work with 64bits. A lot of the older 32 and 16 bit hardware just won't work under 64 even with drivers. However, that is the price of newer technology.
  5. AMD2800+

    AMD2800+ TS Rookie Posts: 51

    P4 or Celeron? Two different types of processor.
    Why bother having all that with a 2Ghz processor, especially an Intel? It'd be different if it was a 2GHz AMD, but its not, is it. Sorry, but i think thats a slightly silly system.
  6. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966

    Yeah maybe

    You are entitled to your opinion...especially here!
    though... if you'll look at my profile alittle closer you'll see I have upp'ed the intel to 2.4 celeron and I do have an amd xp 2700+ running 2.166ghz.
    I use them both for beta's and hard number crunching...OS's, games etc.
    I do not expect anything to make sense to anyone, least of all myself.
    I through the better stuff at the intel, it needed it!
    The Amd seems to run quite close to the intel with 1/2 the video, ram and MoBo resources.
    I make do with what ever I have left over from upgrading customer sys's.
    when it comes to choosing brand loyalty, I have to opt out.
    they all have strenghts and weaknesses
    I like to find the balances if at all possible.
    I'm very happy with all the above at diff times.
    Thx ;)
  7. AMD2800+

    AMD2800+ TS Rookie Posts: 51

    Point taken, and i had a little closer look: P4 2ghz celeron. And yes, you have the AMD on the wrong computer.
    (i'm being agressive because i've had a **** of a day. sorry)
  8. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966


    No problem...
    we gotta be ourseleves somewhere.
    I'm open to any critism.. thats how I learn things.
    I hope your days improve!
  9. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    Eh? Why are you expecting a beta operating system to support your hardware straight off the bat? Did you even check the hardware compatibility list before installing? Did you research? Where did you get the ISO file, some bittorrent site? And you expected it to detect all your hardware, and not crash on your system? OK, it might have done that. But it just as easily might well have not. It might have all gone up in a blue screen of death, which was what happened when I tried to put 4051 on a spare partition on my machine. It never installed properly under VMware either, come to think of it.

    The final version of Longhorn will have all of these drivers added. Its not about that at this stage. Its about getting it running on fairly generic, easily supported hardware, and testing the new software like avalon, etc, having a look at the myriad number of changes that Longhorn will have as compared to XP.

    I certainly would not try firing up the installation program for Longhorn on your homebrew PC, finding it does not work and then dubbing the whole Longhorn project a failure on Microsoft's part just because it didn't manage to detect your NVIDIA cards and stuff. You are being unfair condemning Microsoft and Longhorn for that.
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