I'll post back here from time to time to share out any trouble or? So far it is only a clean install, upgrade disabled. I used Acronis true image on my XP pro install. That way I can recover in about 11 mins.. I'm currently installing it on my second pc. (please look at my profile) wish me some luck... cheers Update Well that was a buggy P.O.S.! Took about 20 mins outta my life. It was worth it to take a look. Install was clean tho that was the longest 10 min hardware detect...LOL was unable to install any MoBo resources. no pci devices detected. Hmmmm? LH hated any installs I through at it, Nvidia and so on (it did not lock up at all!). Maybe MS is on to something, but they did not show it to me in this beta 2 release. I think maybe LH needs more time in the oven at higher temp! Cool start! I think maybe I just like to freak myself out!