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What heatsink should I get?

By SuperCheetah
Mar 7, 2002
  1. Eddieguard

    Eddieguard TS Rookie

    So I'm pretty confident this is a stupid question, but almost every single HSF review I have looked at is in reference to an AMD athlon or thunderbird processor... I have a P4. Are HSF's pretty much universal?

    I'm having overheating issues by about 20 C on load, do I need a better HSF or a new case?

    Recommendations welcome.

    Thanks

    Eric
     
  2. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    No, not all are universal. Most of them have different clips for installing them to Socket A/370, 478, 603/4, 775, 754 or 939/940. Good manufacturers also list which mainboards don't have enough space around the socket for big heatsinks (some mainboards have capacitors too close to sockets).
     
  3. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Posts: 75

    Ok I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket CPU cooler because I have heard that AMD's run pretty hot. My question is do I actualy need one, I orderd a X2 4800+ should arrive either today or monday, and if so what would be a good one for under $50 US. Oh and one last question would it be a good idea to get some kind of termal paste ex. Artic Silver?

    CPU coolers I have looked at.
    Zalman
    AC
    Thermaltake
    Thermaltake
     
  4. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    The only AMDs that run hot are the FX-60 & FX-62, but even with those the stock heatsink works perfectly without being noisy. For a 4800+, just make sure to get a silent one, with heat-pipes if possible.
     
  5. kyleman

    kyleman TS Rookie Posts: 105

    Hey guys ive never modded my comp before. Im going to put a Samsung 80GB HDD SP0802N 7800rpm in it aswell as my WD Caviar 160 GB EIDE Hard Drive ( WD1600BB ).
    What fan/s,heatsink should i put in it to cool it down.

    And could someone give me like a simple diagram of a computer and where all the stuff is like the HD. And were you would put a new one in and were the fans are.. (im 13 and im trying 2 convince dad to let me mod it well not me but yer). I dont know much about the setup of one so that would help heaps too.
    Cheers Kyle

    EDIT
    The fan/heatsink if theres a differnece..does it make less noise? that is also a needed thing cus our comp is quite loud
     
  6. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    first off, what kind of computer do you have, and what OS is it running?

    if you're a beginner i reccomend NOT messing with a working PC that you or others need to use. try getting your hands on a cheap used system so that you can do whatever you want to it. if you live in an urban or suburban area, you should be able to find an ideal test subject in someone's trash.

    i believe these sites should get you off to a good start (the first one is kinda out-of date):
    http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/pc/begin/index.html
    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1754
    http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/22/bios_for_beginners/
     
  7. kyleman

    kyleman TS Rookie Posts: 105

    Thanks dude. Ive already talked to other people about this so ive got an idea on what im gonna do:grinthumb
     
  8. 8eios

    8eios TS Rookie Posts: 60

    In my opinion asus star ice is far the best cpu cooler. i'm delighted with its performance. it works between 1500-5000rpm (it comes with a controller like a dimmer, which can be attached either in a pci slot or in a floppy drive slot and lets you set in how may rpm you want it work). even in 1500rpm is very efficient and very quiet, however if you set it to max oh god...you see the temperature droping very very rapidly and sounds like a jet turbine :)
    you can also attach the original heatsink in the back of it for better results.
    it has LED's, supports most sockets and has the quality of asus. Only problems is that it is really big and heavy (must be heavier than half a kilo) and if you don't have an asus motherboard installation is a bit complicated as you will need to remove the motherboard from the chassis.


    http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/cooling/air/heatsinks/asus/stice/
     
  9. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,573   +9

    First, you'll have to determine which part of your computer is making the most noise. This is easier said than done, so you've gotta be creative. Easiest way is just to stick your finger in the middle of the fan, and stop it, and see if it got any quieter. Do this to all the fans, and replace the ones that make the most difference. You'd have to replace them with quieter fans for this to have any effect.

    Noisemakers are usually the PSU, CPU fan, Graphics card fan, HDD, then the case fans.

    I am personally running a thermalright Ultra-120, and that would beat the star ice anyday, and it runs with an insanely quiet Arctic Fan 12. Its not a cheap solution though, but even then, I wouldn't recommend the star ice, it just looks fancy. The professional reviews don't look promising neither.

    For something affordable and quiet, the Zalman 7700 would be a good choice. It might not perform as well as the star ice with the fan at max speed, but it should be cheaper and quieter, and won't be as far behind. Its a highly recommended cooler, and is more or less the only choice for m-ATX cases for enthusiasts (correct me if I'm wrong there). If you can splurge a little, the Zalman 9500, or better yet, the 9700 would be much better when it comes to cooling, due to the position of the heatpipes (placed exactly where the most air would be passing through).
     
  10. kyleman

    kyleman TS Rookie Posts: 105

    Hey guys...yer i sort of have no money so when its legal for me to get a job, ill have money, and i can buy stuff:unch:
    Sounds like a plan.
     
  11. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,573   +9

    Well, if you've got no money, then changing components would be out of the question, wouldn't it? :D

    Of course, if its a particular case fan making most of the noise, removing it would solve your noise problem. You might make your computer a little hotter, so I wouldn't suggest doing this unless you've got enough fans running. How much is enough? Just check your temps, if it goes up considerably, its not enough.
     
     
  12. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    A better option may be to modify the fan to run at 7 volts instead of 12 (if it runs at full speed).
     
  13. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,573   +9

    There's a thread somewhere in the guides section on how to do this. It also has alot of my posts on why you shouldn't.

    If you read the whole thing, you'd know how to do it, and the risks you're taking for doing it.
     
  14. mica3speedy

    mica3speedy TS Rookie Posts: 205

    does anyone know if the thermalright ultra 120 cooler will fit on an asus p5n32-e sli board, which is in a cooler master centurion 5 mid tower? The tower is 7.9"(w) so I believe it will fit the case, however the p5n32-e has heat pipes going around where the cooler would go.
     
  15. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,573   +9

    A very tough call, the heatpipes on that motherboard might be a little too high for the Thermalright Ultra-120. And the Tuniq Tower for that matter, given that I've just bought one and installed it today on another computer.

    The only thing you really can do is check the drawings of the Thermalright Ultra-120, and compare that to the space available.
     
  16. mica3speedy

    mica3speedy TS Rookie Posts: 205

    unfortunately the specs I've seen don't give the length from the base to the bottom of the fins
     
  17. Cinders

    Cinders TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,313   +12

    The real danger when applying a new heatsink to an old Athlon was the method used to install the heatsink's retaining clip. Most of the time the clip was pretty stiff, so you had to use a screw driver to force the clip down onto the clip retainer. If the screw driver slipped there was a real good chance that you'd try to dig a new hole in the motherboard with it. I've slipped several times and dug a good hole once cutting two traces in the process. I was able to fix the motherboard with the careful use of tape as a guide and copper based paint.
     
  18. wilburcleme

    wilburcleme TS Rookie

    the best heatsink is the one which comes with your processor. if you are not happy with that try better ventilation. if all else fails then go for a custom cooler
     
  19. adweston

    adweston Banned Posts: 333

    Have you guys tried the Asus Silent Knight? I have one and really like it. I had a Striker Extreme and it was the only after market cooler that would fit with that wierdo heat pipe design.
     
  20. SineSurfer

    SineSurfer TS Rookie Posts: 50

    Xigmatek for low price high performance.
     
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