I guess it's my fault for "trying" it when it came with my new laptop. It's now like malware though. How is this even remotely ethical? So I'm going to try and remove it AGAIN. But this time with the Norton Removal Tool from their website. Am I the only guy in this group to have developed such a strong dislike for Symantec stuff as of late? So anybody have some tips? I've read elsewhere(so I don't automatically believe it) that even with Symantec's utility that there's still rubbish left over that might require manual deletion. Hooray! More opportunity to screw-up my registry! I swear, if I can't get rid of this junk I'm DEMANDING that Bill Gates swing by my house whilst out galloping around with Jerry Seinfeld and FIX MY DANG LAPTOP! lol Yeah, I used "whilst". I may just scrap Vista all together. I've got XP Home and Pro, 2000, 98, and even an ME disc stashed away. I hate to admit it, but I'm beginning to think Vista is just a re-skinned version of ME ! lol What blows though, is I don't even have a Vista disc. It didn't come with my new laptop. So there's no going back. I think? Or have to PAY for one from eMachines, I guess. Dang. And yes this thread is mostly venting, but any advice would be appreciated guys. Thanks! P.S.- Attached is a picture of a funny cartoon. For no reason.