Win/ 98 -or- Me ?

By uncleel
Feb 18, 2002
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  1. Helping neighbor build a rig for the kids, to be used for internet, & games.
    PII-450
    AWE 32
    TnT Vanta
    USR sportster 56k
    WD 3gig HD

    BECUASE HAX0R'NG SI ILLEGUL I said he must come up w/ his own OS.
    His choices are (from his work I guess)
    1.) Win/98 (1st edition)
    2.) Win/Me

    Which should he choose?
  2. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    Hmm

    Is there really no way to get Win98SE ? It works much better then the first one & WinME never should've came out...
  3. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    I must face him. Alone.

    Not keen on ME but it seems to like some computers, so its maybe worth trying.

    If it doesn't like your rig, it will be a disaster and probably crash frequently. If you do try ME, give the machine a chance to reveal any problems with a proper testing period.

    Like Didou said, it a shame you can't get win98 SE.
  4. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,458   +288

    I think I'm going to be in the minority here but I'd say toss on ME. I've had it on 3 seperate computers and all of them took it well. (Although I have seen other computers that didn't like it).

    Computers that liked it:
    • 1 Ghz Athlon
      Asus A7V w/256 megs of ram at the time
      IBM 30gig Deathstar 60gxp
      Creative Modemblaster modem
      RealTek something (8139?) 10/100 LAN card
      Asus GeForce 2MX
      Panasonic 8x DVD
      Aopen 50x CD
      Mitsumi 4x4x24 CD-RW
    • HP
      PII 300 Pavilion 8275
      196 Megs RAM
      Factory everything else
    • Compuke Celeron 266
      my sister's comp I don't know what else it has other than a 4 gig HD
      96 Megs RAM



    Computer I saw it didn't work with:
    Compuke
    Celeron 500
    512 Megs RAM (Probably part of the problem ME doesn't deal with that without tweaking)

    I'd say if he has a decent amount of RAM (128+) ME is good, just clean install it.
  5. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    win/98se update cd

    He does have a M$ win/98se update cd that allows you to upgrade 98 -to- 98se, which he got from Dell. I assume that the same as Windows Critical Updates obtained online.

    It's been mentioned on the boards that Win/Me is better for gaming ( & were not talking any serious games here) mostly kid stuff.
  6. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    I've kept Win98 on my system for the games only. Drivers have been tweaked very well for it ( Creative drivers for 2k/xp are really bad, at least for the Live series... ).

    Some games just won't run in 2K so I kept 98SE...
  7. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    I want them alive. No disintegrations....

    I DID have Windows ME on my main machine as a small partition for suporting games that did not run well or at all on win2k.

    It was so buggy and rubbish, I intentionally downgraded the partition to Windows 98 SE with a fresh install.

    Not a big fan of Win ME.
  8. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    I'm inclined to use 98 & try that upgrade cd to make it SE. Never believed in the Lastest & Greastest OS from M$ marketing hype, & I don't know what Me was all about other than a way to stop support for 95.
    Far as I remember, Me had alot of photo editing stuff, like it was an experiment for future intergration ( XP) Don't think his kids need it & never thought better than SE, except for some comments I've read about "gaming" but it ain't my decision. Rig is about done & I'll be formatting for him this weekend.
  9. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    be aware of some pitfalls

    Wouldn't Windows update
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/default.asp
    be better than the update on CD}

  10. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,458   +288

    You can make WindowsME step-up clean install by using the 98se cd he has from dell (assuming its not a system restore cd). And isn't ME step up only like $50. I say only like $50 is a drop in the bucket. :rolleyes:
  11. Ai Hate

    Ai Hate Newcomer, in training Posts: 321

    Re: I must face him. Alone.

     
  12. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,458   +288

    ?

    Has he/you put an OS on yet? What did you choose? Any problems with the installation?
  13. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    this weekend

  14. HaXoR

    HaXoR Newcomer, in training

    HELLO I USED TOO BE A HAX0R BUT NOW I AM A COMPUTAR CONSULTANT BECUASE HAX0RING SI ILLEGAL!!! AND TEHY SAIDS I WOULD BE ARESTED IF I KEPT HAX0RING SO NOW I HELP PEOPAL INSTEAD OF HURT THEM HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
  15. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    Oh thank you Jeff K.
  16. m1066ad

    m1066ad Newcomer, in training Posts: 16

    Try a 98Lite install of 98se...about 220 MB, no junk, and the fastest OS MS makes, in my opinion, using the 98Lite install...and I think it's as stable as any...I can crash XP Pro :blush:
  17. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    And I can crash Win 98 lite. :)

    The only HaX0ring happening here will be d0n3 0n y3R |-|34D
    :blackeye: :dead: :p
  18. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    A normal install of 98SE shoulbn't be more then 200mb. Not taking the swap file in account of course ;)
  19. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    run dos run

    Considering these kids might have alot of older Pokémon games, Me looks like a worse & worse choice.
  20. Butterball

    Butterball Newcomer, in training Posts: 79

    well as much as i dont like 98 it is sooooo much better than ME so i would put 98 on there and let the little chillens have fun with it
  21. boeingfixer

    boeingfixer Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,245

    Win Choice

    I would tend to agree with the general concensis here....Win 98SE would be the best bet. Or tell him to get a newer box and go with XP....

    Take care

    Boeingfixer
  22. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    Thanks but I finished the job a few weeks ago. He wanted a kids pc to keep them off his pretty new DeLL.
    Went w/ 98 & update disc, due to dos games.

    PII-450
    AWE 32
    TnT Vanta
    USR sportster 56k
    WD 3gig HD
    ThrustMaster Joystix

    good enuff lil' rig for the kiddies :approve:
  23. CptSiskoX

    CptSiskoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 32

    I would personally go with Windows ME. Updated drivers, still supported by MS, has newer multimedia components and bug fixes, supports Win2k style TCP/IP stack (better performance/security) and more. If you really need DOS mode you can easily modify it with any of the free patches out there or boot to a floppy (supported way of doing it by MS). It's faster than Win98 usually, and it has a lot of improved UI enhancements etc. Win95/98 drivers will work fine on WinME also most of the time if needed. :)
  24. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,145

    thanks but the job is already done & he had to come up w/ the OS. Too many old DOS pokémon type games to take a risk w/ ME's virtual dos. It just has to work, be reliable & easy for the kiddies.
  25. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    Why on earth someone even suggests installing ME if 98SE is an option??
    My record with 98SE size was about 100M (with 95A, 40M) :) I used 98lite and did the rest manually.
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