Win XP on two computers?

[spartanslayer]

Rule number one. Don't tell lies. If you are prone to telling lies, your reputation will go down.

Rule number two. It doesn't matter who you are dealing with, you need to be honest. Try to be an example to the company. If microsoft sees that the people buying their products are honest, they will be grateful, and probably make the next one better. Don't be a liar. It's not cool.

 

[alidabiri]

check it out:
http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/1395
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kb.../Miscellaneous/BackupRestoreXPActivation.html
http://netsecurity.about.com/od/windowsxp/qt/aaqtwinxp0829.htm
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1196485,00.asp
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php
http://windows.ittoolbox.com/documents/popular-q-and-a/moving-windows-xp-to-a-new-hard-disk-2263


i don't lie. i don't have too. usually people who advise others not to tell lies; lie all the time themselves.

 

[Row1]

license for 2nd comp?

this is a great discussion. i didn't know if i could just put it on a 2nd comp.

this makes me wonder: what would it cost for me to license my 2nd comp? i may try to find time in the near future to figure this out, but if anyone knows, pass along the info.

 

[alidabiri]

you can license out your computer, but not your os.
you can install your original os as many times as you like, without changing your configuration or as long as you don't score below 7. so, if you change your hard drive, you're still safe, because you still score 9 out of 10. but if you change hard drive and nic card (remember.... mac address is 3 points!) then you score below the 7 required.

 

[spartanslayer]

Alidabari,
That is pretty insulting. Are you saying that I'm a liar. I'm not perfect, and I ocasionally lie, but I'm sorry whenever I do. I try my best just to tell the truth. I'm just saying that lying is really bad, and that you shouldn't do it on purpose, or even by accident. Especially when your lying will hurt someone. Now I know that Microsoft is the richest company in the world, but still, somone's going to lose that money. It's the same as if you held someone up, and took $200 from them. It's not right.

 

[Row1]

not lying...

i have to try my best to be honest and straighforward about things because we are trying to raise a teenager. she gets in trouble for lying and for when she misleads, omits, etc., in an effort to be deceptive while not explicitly lying.

so i have to do what i can to not be a hypocrite. that's part of my reason for figuring this out. she and i know that ms office includes the right to install to more than one comp, and that is how we have msoffice on our computer.

 

[girishrane]

Hi,

I would say that go ahead and install it. If Microsoft sends any federal agents sue them for spying on your machine. Legally they cant spy on your machine.

Microsoft Sucks...
Why? Here is the story.

I bought New HP business laptop in Singapore year or so back.
Recently I moved to New York and in that I misplaced my Original XP CD.

My laptop's Hard Disk crashed and I had to replace it with new one.
I called Microsoft that I just need a CD, I do have valid license key. I just need a copy of OS that I own and I have already paid for.

They said its easy Laptops Manufacturer should be able to provide it for Free.
Then I called HP they replied . Since warranty is over ( Just passed 1 year) so they will have to charge me 283 $ for the XP CD. I said why should I pay for something, which I own? I just need another copy. They said they cant help it , its Microsoft regulations.

I called Microsoft again they said I will have to purchase new copy of XP!!!! What the hell?? I have to pay 300 bucks for something that I own? No wonder people make copies that come so handy at times.

Monopoly Sucks


Cheers

 

[Tedster]

they have no way of proving to M$ that you OWN the CD. Many manufactuers delete your info after warranties expire. (what's the point of keeping your info?)

Windows XP will not install on more than 1 machine. Not only is it against the license and illegal, but M$ key will only work for 1 machine. You can remove XP from 1 machine and reinstall on another (that's legal) but you will have to call M$ and obtain a new key.

Techspot does not condone software piracy and it will not be tolerated here.

 

[alidabiri]

you might want to check these sites on software buing vs. licensing and "owning"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/13_3/news/14241-1.html
http://www.riceintegration.com/firstsale.htm
http://www.hewm.com/docs/en/softman.pdf
http://www.arl.org/info/letters/FTC091100.html

 

[Mirob]

clone 98?

I hope that will stop Microsoft from issuing one year lisences.

Microsoft may not go after individuals, but Techspot may have some troubles with threads like this. I know other fourms would ban mambers for telling how to ****** software.

edit - p!rate is a bad word here. :haha:

 

[alidabiri]

this is an interseting debate. i myself know many people. who have xp-pro and have installed it on a desk top pc and a laptop. actually, if you look at the activation process and product id and key code hashing technique, you can do this. if the laptop is dockable, i repeat - dockable, you are allowed to install the xp on the laptop. i have xp-pro sp2 oem that i purchased from
www.softwareoutlet.com for $79.00
this cd does not have any manufacturer's logo. it has microsoft logo on it and it is meant for people who make their own pc's using motherboards and and whatnot. the cd has a key code and product id and c.o.a.
i get my updates on both pc's regularly. occasionally, when i go to microsoft's site to download goodies, it asks for genuine advantage validation. both computers pass the legitimacy test. but i don't think if i installed this on everybody's pc inmy neighborhood, it would pass.
that's all.

 

[frostyboy]

I have a question.

I have 2 hard drives on my PC. One hard drive has Win Xp installed on it. The other I would like to intsall Win Vista beta and be able to dual boot between the 2 drives.

My question is do I have to format the second drive as a primary or logical drive and does it have to be partitioned. Or can I install Vista onto that drive as is without partioning it.

Cheers

 

[alidabiri]

you probably have 2 IDE slots on your mobo.
one is primary, and the other is secondary.
the primary is probably used as primary master, containing xp. you can also hook up a slave drive (maybe a cd) to it.
the secondary, can have an hdd as secondary master, and another hdd or cd/dvd as slave.
i'm not sure about vista's requirements. but the second hdd should be secondary master. you can look up vista's requirements on microsoft's website on vista.

 

[eddyuci]

XP Pro Upgrade = new COA?

First post and trying to revive an old thread (forgive me)...

I have XP Home that came with my Dell and want to get the XP Pro Upgrade. Will the XP Pro Upgrade give me a new COA free and clear of the old XP Home COA? Asking because I want to then install XP Home on another computer (wanting to Boot Camp a MacBook).

Well I found out from the Microsoft EULA FAQ that an upgraded XP is considered a single product. However I did learn from the same website that you can install some Microsoft products already on one computer on another portable computer given certain restrictions specified in that product's EULA.

 

[alidabiri]

if you have a dockable laptop, you can install xp pro on a home pc and on this dockable laptop. there's a question as to what a dockable laptop is. it used to be that it "docked" to the main pc in your home, you took the laptop to work, and brought it home and updated your home pc. this works just like a networked laptop with a desktop pc. it's just like it's "docked".
p.s.
if you read microsoft's activation process and scoring, a dockable pc is given one points on the scoring scheme, such as cd-rom, hdd, nic card, ram, cpu-id, etc.

 

[bkinney]

Now what...

I bought a custom built pc about 6 months ago that didnt come with an OS, I chose not to buy another because I already had an older gateway with windows XP, so I used the same COA on both computers. And currently they both work, but when I tried to use it on a friends computer it would not let me, so I figured that it was ok to have 2 computers using the same COA since it let me use two but not three. Just recently my brother bought a laptop with windows vista and I wanted to do the same as I had before. However it was brought to my attention that it might not be legal, so I check microsoft's website to be sure. What I found out was that it is illegal to have it one 2 machines, why they allow for it to be used on 2 but not 3 has me confused and worried that MS might bring legal action against me because THEY LET ME USE IT TWICE. I understand that just because I can doesnt mean its right, but why would they let me use it twice and then block out 3 times? (I used microsoft windows XP home edition, SP2)
If anyone has any feedback i would be glad to hear it.

 

[casalavanda]

Lived in France purchased a brand new computer along with Windows XP pre-loaded and activation code (forgot about the sticker on the rear of the PC) because the French XP OS was difficult to understand decided to reformat the PC having purchased an English WinXP version along with its activation Code so technically I have activated two codes on the same computer with Microsoft

Has anyone made this same mistake? Can one of these activation codes be deactivated? What would you advise if anything

This French PC came with just a restore CD along with other bundled software problem is when I do a reformat I use my English version of XP

Regards

 

[nickc]

if u did a reformat when u reinstalled Windows XP do not worry about it just donot try to go back to the original.

 

[pdyckman@comcas]

I didn't read all the posts but I feel better with a seperate copy of "Genuine" Windows on each machine. I had a volume license for XP PRO and used that on many machines, now a lot of volume licenses are blocked. They might all be blocked since Vista came out.

 

[trickyt]

One copy of XP on two computers

I have had quite a few computers pass through my house over the years. I live in Switzerland so more often than not they came with XP in French or German which I don't understand. More often than than not I wipe the disk clean and use one of my English XP disks to re-install. I certainly posess fewer English disks than I have PCs but have never encountered an update or authenication problem. I have also replaced various disks with higher capacity ones, re-installing XP on the new disk. Again this has never caused any sort of verification problem.

Windows Genuine Advantage collects a number of pieces of information and it may be that if some are the same it will let the software pass. Maybe the fact that the PCs unique ID number had already run another version of windows is enough to let the software pass,

Accoring to Wikipedia:

Windows Genuine Advantage checks the following components:

* Computer make and model
* BIOS checksum.
* MAC address.
* A unique number assigned to your computer by the tools (Globally Unique Identifier or GUID)
* Hard drive serial number.
* Region and language settings of the operating system.
* Operating system version.
* PC BIOS information (make, version, date).
* PC manufacturer.
* User locale setting.
* Validation and installation results.
* Windows or Office product key.
* Windows XP product ID.

 

[monopolie]

Just a cotton pickin' minute.

One point, since some want to pontificate about the "legalities" of someone having one copy of XP on two machines for personal use. Gates owns a MONOPOLY. If the politicians had any stones whatsoever they would either slam him for anti-trust violations or regulate him like they do any utility. What a bunch of BS.