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Windows 8 beta may arrive in February, no classic desktop for ARM tablets

By Jos
Dec 2, 2011
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  1. Microsoft may release the first public beta of Windows 8 as early as February 2012, according to sources close to the company cited by The Next Web. An exact dateā€¦

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  2. Mizzou

    Mizzou TS Enthusiast Posts: 930

    I normally install the Windows betas but may hold off this time around. Not the least bit interested in running the Metro interface, hopefully there will be an option to simply disable it.
     
  3. H3llion

    H3llion TechSpot Paladin Posts: 974   +99

    As far as I know, there is.
     
  4. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,286   +232

    All I'm seeing the last day or so is conflicting reports of whether the desktop interface will be included in the ARM version of Win8. The constant flip-flop is tiresome.

    Seems to me that not including a desktop UI option for Win8-ARM would alienate many potential users, and put artificial limitations on just what you can do with the ARM platform. I personally would like to see Win8 running on a Transformer Prime (or similar system with tablet/netbook conversion abilities), which would make much more sense with a desktop UI control scheme. Heck, they could even get fancy and have it switch automatically depending on if things are docked to the tablet or not... Hey Microsoft, you listening??? *tap* *tap* Is this thing on?
     
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,253   +1,550

    That would be cool!!
    :cool::cool::cool::cool:
     
  6. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,078   +76

    I used the developer preview extensively, and I wasn't impressed with it at all. I think I'm going to keep Android on my Transformer Prime.
     
  7. Where have you been the past however many months? It's been stated multiple times by Microsoft, and you can see for yourself in the developer build how the Metro and traditional interfaces are handles. No, you can't disable Metro outright, it's the default GUI, however you can launch the traditional interface as you would launch any other program.

    To be honest, the Metro interface's Start screen is superior to the traditional Start Menu, it's just a grid of shortcuts, with the most used ones nearest to the bottom left, so ergonomically it's much faster than launching a program by clicking through the Start Menu, and basically identical to launching an application through a desktop shortcut.

    Metro applications on the other hand are a mixed bag, and better suited for touchscreen laptops and tablets than a desktop PC. It'll be interesting to see how the general ecosystem pans out. I hope (and I'm pretty confident it'll be the case) that developers continue to make non-Metro style software rather than just dumbing things down.
     
  8. oranuro

    oranuro TS Rookie

    Because of Metro I may have to skip Windows 8. As a desktop power user, last thing I want is to dance around a smartphone GUI. I know months after release there will be tweaks and hacks to remove most of the Metro elements but I believe that because Windows 7 is so solid that the general public will be in the position to vote with their wallets and say "NO, give us the traditional desktop back or we'll sit on Windows 7 like we did Windows XP for 10 years".

    They can't afford to do that, not with the way the market is shaping now that Android and IOS are a major factor in the PC space. No one in business needs Windows 8, no power users need Windows 8. Who is their target with this balloon of a UI?
     
  9. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    Everyone should at least try it. If you don't like it, don't use it, but I don't see the point of NOT trying it.

    At the very least you get to have a lot of ammunition to ***** about the OS until it comes out and you get so respond "yes I tried it!" during internet arguments.
     
  10. A) You most likely haven't tried the new interface. B) If you have, then you're not a power-user, you're just afraid of change. Every power user basically uses the Windows 7 UI the same way: most-used shortcuts pinned to the Start Menu, Windows key on the keyboard to access everything else. Metro reduces the two-click process of launching a progam/file/folder in Windows 7 to one click in Windows 8, whilst encouraging more use of the Windows key - which is basically used exclusively by power users at present.
     
  11. killeriii

    killeriii TS Enthusiast Posts: 213   +14

    what exactly does windows 8 bring to the table besides metro gui and arm compatibility?
    so far i'm not seeing a reason to upgrade from windows 7.
     
     
  12. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,253   +1,550

    Windows 8 with a easy way to toggle between the two interfaces or I stay with Windows 7 as a desktop user.

    It is sad that I am a moderator to a Windows 8 site and I am not compelled to use Windows 8. I may need to renounce my title as moderator. A tablet user may actually fit the roll better than a desktop user.
     
  13. Let's face it, Microsoft was compelled to develop WIN8, because of tablets and fear.
    In work and now in retirement, I have used Windows tablets. There were and are work machines.
    Ipad and Android are entertainment devices.
    I love my EP121 (tablet/slate) and I'm anticipating more WIN8 tablet choices. WIN8 should make the MS tablet experience better.
    I think that WIN8 tablets are best suited to the business world.
    I don't see WIN8 overtaking IOS or Android in the entertainment tablet world any time soon.
    I see tablets tablets for business as similar to the old MS-DOS days--provide a base platform
    for VARs, developers, etc. to solve business problems.
    MS WIN8 should provide a business friendly platform for that.
     
  14. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 1,966   +389

    Windows 8 is looking like a flop IMO.
    Except the xbox live integration.
    If it lets me join my friend's xbox live parties, than i might have to consider it.
     
  15. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    "Every power user"?

    I would greatly appreciate if you stopped generalizing your habits and you used them as the basis of your argument.
     
  16. i like windows 8 even in dev its just as stable as windows 7 currently are
     
  17. Emexrulsier

    Emexrulsier TS Enthusiast Posts: 232   +7

    tbh I don't give a rats arse what the interface looks like provided I can access all my programs/settings etc easily. I have seen many vids how the metro gui kinda sits side by side with the the classic desktop which for many is the best of both worlds (all those people moaning about no classic obviously aint actually looked at the system). What I am looking forward to is the rumoured possabiluty of playing xbox 360 games in almost like a virtual xbox (similar to how xp mode). If it works 100% this could bring in a massive cash boost for Microsoft with millions of software titles all ready and available for pc owners to purchase.
     
  18. In the Dev Preview you can disable the Metro interface with a registry change.
     
  19. jonny702

    jonny702 TS Member Posts: 30

    They say clearly in the article that the classic desktop is available. The metro UI is rumored to just be for the ARM tablets (which is more sensible anyways). If you don't see a benefit in upgrading check out the windows 8 blog to see the improvements they are putting in. Lots of better features in windows explorer
     
  20. yukka

    yukka TechSpot Paladin Posts: 738   +31

    There has been no confirmation that this will happen. It would open MS up to huge piracy issues with the entire back catalogue of 360 games if you could play themon Xbox live on an open system like a PC.
     
  21. My take is this:
    Apple iPads & iPhones have iOS, but Mac's have MAC-OS
    Google phones & tablets have Android, but for PC hardware, they have Chrome.
    Microsoft is bridging the gap between mobile devices and the computers that so frequently compliment them. No more crummy iTunes to take over the interfacing. I don't even know if Google has a bridge app for their systems. Cheers to MS for coming up with the logical next-step. Let the others go through the growing pains and discovery process. Now give the public what they want - seamless interaction.
    This time next year, I expect to have a Windows 8 phone, tablet and PC all working in harmony together without a clunky synchronizing interface.
    -EJ - Daytona Beach, FL
     
  22. There actually won't be any tweaks to get rid of the Metro UI. In the leaked Beta screenshots, the close, minimize, and maximize buttons look like metro tiles, and the Aero UI is fairly gone, the back and forward buttons are also metro. Which means for the most part the entire UI will be metro.
     


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