There are some other niceities(sp?) about Windows 8. Immensely better Task Manager (7's isn't really any different than NT4's from 1996), more informative copy boxes, ability to pause file transfers, faster startup/shutdown (even if it is hybridized so what its still faster than 7). Now, are these improvements worth the money + needing to install an app to get a start menu back? That is what the core of the discussions should be about, because if you get rid of Metro it IS better than 7 on a desktop. It just might not be worth the price.