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  1. GodsDontMiss Newcomer, in training

    There is an entire operating system behind that screen. You should try it on a computer its actually pretty nice.
  2. Generally speaking, the operating system is not physically situated behind the screen, arguably not physically anywhere, so the above statement is false. Incidentally, the OS in question is very poor indeed, the screen in question being one of the (many) weak points.
  3. blackdragon1230 Newcomer, in training

    there will be choices in brands, but the world is moving to more universal all in one devices. if you dont like it then make your own. but this is the way of things.
  4. abysal Newcomer, in training Posts: 34

    Yep you're right, even with the awful looking aesthetics.
  5. abysal Newcomer, in training Posts: 34


    Exactly why aero transparency UI is no more.
  6. It's the same propaganda that's been used in the past. Upgrade to Windows 8! It's better!....

    Actually, not really. The speed improvements are minimal and I won't even get into the interface. The boot time has been improved by no more than a few seconds, if that, on most machines from the hundreds of reviews I've read throughout the internet world.

    I recently got off my XP high horse and upgraded to Windows 7 SP1. I wasn't sure what to expect but can say that Im thrilled I did it. XP was Microsoft's best release until 7 SP1 came along. How about we get a Service Pack 2 and you take a little more time on Windows 8. Rushing things is what screwed you with Vista and is what will screw you with Windows 8. Get it right. That's all your users want and ask for. Seriously, Microsoft, it's not that difficult.
     
  7. ReederOnTheRun TechSpot Booster Posts: 294   +52

    So just so we have this straight, you want to give up proven speed boosts, unparalleled compatibility between devices, and all the other features they've added at 1/3 of the price of windows 7 all because the start up UI is too simple for your tastes? I like win 7 too, but this is a big step into the future of how companies design there products. If you're ever going to upgrade, this wouldn't be a bad time.
  8. Really? This comment thread is about Windows 8, not about your hate towards Microsoft. If your going to post garbage, find the appropriate forum.
    As for Windows 8, I've installed it and keeping an open mind. Its a bold change. Some will like it, some wont. It's still new to me but after I learn it, I'll post pros and cons
  9. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,915   +119

    Boot time is immensely improved on older machines. Perhaps if you have an SSD and a CPU made within the last 2 years there isn't much boot difference, but there are a lot of computers that don't have super modern tech in them.

    It took you a while to get off your high horse about XP, perhaps you are just a bit close minded about progression. People often forget how XP wasn't very good for a long time. There was a lot of driver support problems, poor drivers, still lots of BSODs (although less than 9x). It took until about SP2 before things really got very good for XP. I think a lot of the love for XP is from people that are in their mid 20s or younger, by the time they were really using computers for more than kiddie games XP was pretty good.

    There are a lot of things covered in this thread, and in particular the discussion on Win 8 that is stickied at the top of Windows OS forum, so I won't rehash them all. Win 8 is bringing a lot of improvements over 7, and the only criticism about 8 is Metro/lack of traditional start menu.

    Businesses will stick to 7 for a long time, but not because 8 is bad, but rather because its an expensive and time consuming process to upgrade computers.
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  10. Boot time is not immensely improved on older machines. It is improved on newer machines.
  11. Jay Pfoutz Malware Helper Posts: 4,286   +49

    SNGX1275 - the man is well read! (y) Good read my man!
  12. Zoltan Head TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 259   +27

    I used to work with a Will Reid - I wonder if they're related?
  13. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,915   +119

    Really? My 2.4Ghz P4 w/HT and a 160GB hd would strongly disagree. I boot Windows 7 Basic on it and Win 8 CP, the difference is immense.
  14. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,748   +29

    On my 'reasonably old' C2Q 8400/4GB RAM, it boots up roughly in half the Win7's time, which is very reasonable improvement IMO.

    @SNGX
    After months of trial, I'm positive that there are no ghosts in win8 (or its UI), and it is pretty easy to live with.
  15. @SNGX - what are you comparing the boot time of the (oldish) P4 with? I can't see the new hardware? :confused:
  16. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,915   +119

    ^ I'm comparing it with itself. I have that system dual booting both Win 7 and Win 8.
  17. HuntForTheWOrst TechSpot Member Posts: 35

    Af the week after I buy 7 the preview comes then the month later whoopy the final version is out I was so pissed on that day I had to get 7 cause I need it for North Park Secondary school but the week later that sucks then theirs the people who got it the day before the final realease but in my opinion without all the hate I dont like the way their making the newer models look I had XP one of my best computer R.I.P my XP tbh.

    TBH the start screen in my opinion isn't the best the couldve done
  18. @SNGX again - In that case, it is absurd to contradict the statement "Boot time is not immensely improved on older machines. It is improved on newer machines.", if you only are using one (older) machine? Where's the newer machine? Where's the older? It's the same one!
  19. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,915   +119

    What are you going on about? Boot time is immensely improved on older machines, I displayed that with 7 and 8 on the same older machine. I'm not, nor was the dude I quoted, saying you are going to get an older machine to boot faster than a new machine. I'm sure there could be countless examples shown where older hardware with 8 would boot faster than newer with 7, but that wasn't at all what I was replying to nor what I was trying to say.

    I think you have misread the original post I was replying to.

    Comparing boot times with identical hardware is the only fair way to compare boot times of differing operating systems.
  20. ig-88 Newcomer, in training Posts: 32

    The start up UI isn't "too simple for my tastes". It's too retarded for my taste. It's a fish out of water. The UI belongs on a cellphone, not on a desktop.

    Proven speed boots at what costs...Because Aero no longer exists? Because less processes are loading at startup? Because we get pretty tiles instead of a desktop? Im supposed to get all giddy inside just because the OS boots faster? What makes it boot faster? Is it because the code is superior to Windows 7 code? Your talking points can't simply exists in a vacuum all by themselves. We need someway to understand why it matters that it boots faster. Do we get all the same functionality we had in Windows 7 for the faster boot times or were there trade-offs and compromises made that make Windows 8 boot faster. Customer to salesman:"Why should I upgrade to Windows 8?" Salesman to customer: "Duhhhh, because it boots faster". Yeah, okay.

    Unparalleled compatibility between devices? *yawn*, there's already enough compatibility between devices. If a device comes with a driver and is USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 compatible it pretty much works. Your panting over a consistent UI between compatible devices. That's all that "unparalleled compatibility between devices" really means.

    Should I run out and buy a polished turd if there is a 1/2 price sale? Who cares if Windows 8 is 1/3 a 1/4 or a 1/5 the price of Windows 7 if you can't stand using it? I don't know that I would want to use it even if it was free.

    These are the arguments you wanna use to persuade people to upgrade to Windows 8 over Windows 7???

    Get rid of the romper-room tiles, the cartoony fish, make Windows 9 what Windows 8 "should" have been and I'll pay $80 for an upgrade. I won't be paying 10 cents for Windows 8.