SNGX1275
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That is simply not true. Processor and memory usage are improved. But it is easy to make simple statements hiding behind a guest account.
Windows 8 Release Preview is out, download now
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Hey SNGX1275! Is that official TechSpot policy about guests - are non-members unwelcome? Are their opinions automatically less intelligent or valid? Oh sorry, perhaps I shouldn't say anything until I join up?
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All I really want to know Is what real feature's (the metro UI doesn't count) does Win 8 have that make It better than Win 7 or XP??
I understand I'm probably not going to find out until we get closer to the release date but, has anyone found any Improvement's yet of what Win 8 does better??
I understand I'm probably not going to find out until we get closer to the release date but, has anyone found any Improvement's yet of what Win 8 does better??
SNGX1275
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No, that isn't true, but what is true is Guests are far more likely to post controversial comments without backing them up because they can do so anonymously.
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SNGX... Is that your name? Or is it an anonomyzing monacre? Hypocrisy at is finest
Even with the good kernel level improvements of windows 8, I have to agree.
If there's not an option to disable Metro, I'll stick to Windows7 x64 until I can. I believe Windows7 will have a lifespan longer than windows XP because of this.
True... Windows 7 is a very good OS, and for years will still be better supported than most OSes out there.
avoidz
Posts: 461 +59
Do I need a product key to install Windows 8 Release Preview?
If you install Windows 8 Release Preview using the Windows 8 Release Preview Setup program, you won't need to enter a product key—the setup program automatically provides the product key. If you create installation media, start your PC from the media, and then install Windows 8 Release Preview, you'll need to enter this product key: TK8TP-9JN6P-7X7WW-RFFTV-B7QPF.
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/faq
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I've only just installed W7 . when will this OS madness stop?
They took away your media centre too, so they can charge extra for it, and also pay no licence fees. All to make it cheaper for the EndUser <not>!. I wonder how little they could charge for it and still be in profit ? £10 ($15) ?? Thats about how much Dell and HP pay, and big companys.
They took away your media centre too, so they can charge extra for it, and also pay no licence fees. All to make it cheaper for the EndUser <not>!. I wonder how little they could charge for it and still be in profit ? £10 ($15) ?? Thats about how much Dell and HP pay, and big companys.
whiteandnerdy
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I'm not even going to download this. I love the desktop set up and this overgrown mobile OS looks like it's gonna fall flat on its face
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For a tech site comment section, it's pretty pathetic that a lot of you fail to see past the Metro UI. Is it a reason not to buy it? Sure, it's up to you, but I have yet to read a comment about how someone wants to take advantage of the many other features and optimizations that go beyond the UI.
And for the guy saying people using guest accounts are "hiding", I could say the same to anyone not using their real name.
And for the guy saying people using guest accounts are "hiding", I could say the same to anyone not using their real name.
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"Windows 8 is pointless, it's just an overgrown mobile OS"
I think you miss the point of windows 8, which is to offer the best of both worlds (mobile OS +PC OS).
For example I have an iPad, but many times I need to something "more" on the thing, but then I have to switch over to my PC. Now with Windows 8 you can do both, casual and more power user stuff. Now for desktop users, the start button just requires you to hover to the hot corner.
Only when you press the hot corner does metro come up. So you can be in classic desktop the whole time if you want, especially if you pin apps on your taskbar. Metro is a combination global start menu + mobile touch menu. I use it as a pseudo desktop to pin my folders and apps, leaving my classic desktop uncluttered. Before that I had a ton of app/folder shortcuts on my desktop.
Besides metro, there's a ton of under the hood improvements. Whether you "need" windows 8 is entirely up to you. But for me, the under the hood improvements and fast boot time is critical for me. This is the same argument from XP to Windows 7, if you don't have a need for the improvements, you don't really need to change. But for some of us, we live for this stuff. The only constant in IT and technology is change. Who knows, 10yrs from now, this same argument will repeat when we move on from metro to something else, then people will complain about THAT too. You know how it is
I think you miss the point of windows 8, which is to offer the best of both worlds (mobile OS +PC OS).
For example I have an iPad, but many times I need to something "more" on the thing, but then I have to switch over to my PC. Now with Windows 8 you can do both, casual and more power user stuff. Now for desktop users, the start button just requires you to hover to the hot corner.
Only when you press the hot corner does metro come up. So you can be in classic desktop the whole time if you want, especially if you pin apps on your taskbar. Metro is a combination global start menu + mobile touch menu. I use it as a pseudo desktop to pin my folders and apps, leaving my classic desktop uncluttered. Before that I had a ton of app/folder shortcuts on my desktop.
Besides metro, there's a ton of under the hood improvements. Whether you "need" windows 8 is entirely up to you. But for me, the under the hood improvements and fast boot time is critical for me. This is the same argument from XP to Windows 7, if you don't have a need for the improvements, you don't really need to change. But for some of us, we live for this stuff. The only constant in IT and technology is change. Who knows, 10yrs from now, this same argument will repeat when we move on from metro to something else, then people will complain about THAT too. You know how it is
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Windows 8 rocks! BTW Gotta love every time there's a change in the OS (no matter what OS)
Here's some golden comments when we moved from Win98 to XP circa 2001 via cnet's review of "XP"
XP "review" quotes from CNET:
"The new GUI is a headache and lacks any originality. It looks as if Microsoft is trying to show how artistic it can get only to fail as it did with its Windows technology. I would rather switch back to the classic Windows 2000 GUI"
"I've been using XP for a few days now after using Win 98se for around 5 years, and I'm still not sure if I'll keep it on my system"
"Why would anyone with Windows ME, 2000, etc. consider upgrading. Me and 100% of friends are tired of that carrot saying life will be better ... even thought I've shelled out hundreds for upgrades, etc. I think the PC market is seeing a slowdown because they don't need a 1.X Ghz machine, as their XX Mhz is fine. Same thing with my Operating System. I won't upgrade until 'forced' to which shouldn't have to happen for a few years yet!! "
" Bloated, bloated, bloated... Instead of trying to be everything to everybody, why can't Microsoft just create a fast OS that works with the millions of non-Microsoft programs already out there? It also amazes me that, in a society that is becoming more computer-literate every day, Microsoft continues to dummy-down their products to the point much of the functionality becomes obtrusive and counter-productive. "
"I would urge you to buy windows 2000 while you still can, it has all the good parts of XP minus the bloat. "
"No serious gamer should upgrade to XP it is not good with games. Windows 98 SE is still the best OS for games and will always be no matter how old it becomes"
ROFL!
Man these people need to read "who moved my cheese". Can you imagine if you shown them their own reviews/comments 10yrs later?
Here's some golden comments when we moved from Win98 to XP circa 2001 via cnet's review of "XP"
XP "review" quotes from CNET:
"The new GUI is a headache and lacks any originality. It looks as if Microsoft is trying to show how artistic it can get only to fail as it did with its Windows technology. I would rather switch back to the classic Windows 2000 GUI"
"I've been using XP for a few days now after using Win 98se for around 5 years, and I'm still not sure if I'll keep it on my system"
"Why would anyone with Windows ME, 2000, etc. consider upgrading. Me and 100% of friends are tired of that carrot saying life will be better ... even thought I've shelled out hundreds for upgrades, etc. I think the PC market is seeing a slowdown because they don't need a 1.X Ghz machine, as their XX Mhz is fine. Same thing with my Operating System. I won't upgrade until 'forced' to which shouldn't have to happen for a few years yet!! "
" Bloated, bloated, bloated... Instead of trying to be everything to everybody, why can't Microsoft just create a fast OS that works with the millions of non-Microsoft programs already out there? It also amazes me that, in a society that is becoming more computer-literate every day, Microsoft continues to dummy-down their products to the point much of the functionality becomes obtrusive and counter-productive. "
"I would urge you to buy windows 2000 while you still can, it has all the good parts of XP minus the bloat. "
"No serious gamer should upgrade to XP it is not good with games. Windows 98 SE is still the best OS for games and will always be no matter how old it becomes"
ROFL!
Man these people need to read "who moved my cheese". Can you imagine if you shown them their own reviews/comments 10yrs later?
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What do they mean by "media not available"? Can't install windows 8 because media is not available. Why?
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@guest,
you think moving from win98 to XP was a blast, you should see XP to & reviews:
windows 7 reviews
choice comments about windows 7:
"Incompatible with all your software. Convoluted. Hides your files from you. Slows your PC to a standstill. Crashes. Completely unrecognizable from 95/98/ME/2000/NT and XP"
"Interface, the fact that any Mac user can see the attempts at copying that Windows attempts with every update to it's operating systems"
" the setup needs to be more like xp, and word 2007 needs to be more like word 2003 "
"I do not like anything about this product. It is trying to give an Apple appearance, but without the functionality. "
" It looks as if it thinks I want my computer as a plaything. XP was fast, neat, logical, easy to use; I've been working on this for several weeks and I still hate it. it does what \I don't want and can't do what I do want; How can I get XP back!"
WOW.
So now we have Microsoft come up with a redesigned GUI that doesn't look anywhere near OSX, and the users STILL complain.
WOW.
you think moving from win98 to XP was a blast, you should see XP to & reviews:
windows 7 reviews
choice comments about windows 7:
"Incompatible with all your software. Convoluted. Hides your files from you. Slows your PC to a standstill. Crashes. Completely unrecognizable from 95/98/ME/2000/NT and XP"
"Interface, the fact that any Mac user can see the attempts at copying that Windows attempts with every update to it's operating systems"
" the setup needs to be more like xp, and word 2007 needs to be more like word 2003 "
"I do not like anything about this product. It is trying to give an Apple appearance, but without the functionality. "
" It looks as if it thinks I want my computer as a plaything. XP was fast, neat, logical, easy to use; I've been working on this for several weeks and I still hate it. it does what \I don't want and can't do what I do want; How can I get XP back!"
WOW.
So now we have Microsoft come up with a redesigned GUI that doesn't look anywhere near OSX, and the users STILL complain.
WOW.
SNGX1275
Posts: 10,615 +467
Glad a couple of you guys pointed out the responses people have to now 'solid' OSes. Many people complain anytime something changes, then they actually change and suddenly are silent. Then they sing praises for the old OS when a one comes out. Happens every time. Too bad when XP came out that TS was on Jawbreaker and we lost everything moving to vbullitin - because I'm sure some of the people that complained about Vista/7's appearance/usage were the same that complained about XP when they were using 98.
Thing is, people will hate 8, but 9 will come out and it will contain the same core as 8, with some updates and people will love it.
Thing is, people will hate 8, but 9 will come out and it will contain the same core as 8, with some updates and people will love it.
Archean
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@SNGX
Generally 'ordinary folks (and in this case users)' are averse to change. They will rather do nothing and have status quo then make all the complaints about how miserable things have become.
Now that out of they way, after using W8CP for months (am installing RP right now) I never disliked Metro, it is just different. I think with simple addition of 'Start' button MS will probably avoid alienating much of the crowd out there so that is one change which they should make IMHO.
Secondly, MS is making the right choice by trying to 'integrate' platforms enabling developers to produce software for them more easily (remember IE integration in OS? now everyone is doing it). Radical changes do carry immense risk with them, but by being bold about making the right calls, one can still come out on top at the end of day.
Generally 'ordinary folks (and in this case users)' are averse to change. They will rather do nothing and have status quo then make all the complaints about how miserable things have become.
Now that out of they way, after using W8CP for months (am installing RP right now) I never disliked Metro, it is just different. I think with simple addition of 'Start' button MS will probably avoid alienating much of the crowd out there so that is one change which they should make IMHO.
Secondly, MS is making the right choice by trying to 'integrate' platforms enabling developers to produce software for them more easily (remember IE integration in OS? now everyone is doing it). Radical changes do carry immense risk with them, but by being bold about making the right calls, one can still come out on top at the end of day.
Marnomancer
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Exactly! The good-OSes-skipping-a-generation trend is setting in hard, and is unlikely to be purged so easily. Actually I wouldn't have dislike Metro hadn't my Linux had that little "accident".
Windows 8 is a stroke of genius. Now all the XP hold outs waiting for Windows 8 to be the new XP2, will throw up their hands in defeat and buy Windows 7. Oh those geniuses at Microsoft really know how to manipulate the masses. Either that or push everyone over to Linux. Cell phones are Big Brothers way of tracking everyone and tablets are no better. Throw away your cell phones for security reasons, and send your tablets to the poor in Africa. Wise up people, the Governments are on the move.
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