Windows 8 to include its own PDF reader

By Emil
Apr 4, 2011
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  1. Microsoft is planning on including its own Portable Document Format (PDF) reader in Windows 8 called Modern Reader. This is the first app discovered to be utilizing the new AppX application package type, as revealed by Rafael Rivera and Paul Thurrott and posted at SuperSite.

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  2. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,907   +115 Staff Member

    Can we please can this awful screenshot?
    It just looks dreadful to me, sorry :(

    About the article, I'm sure even Microsoft can't up Adobe one when it comes to writing vulnerable code for a PDF viewer, so I'd say this is good news...

    You could just install Chrome of course, which has it's own PDF reader and also sandboxes the dreadful other Adobe application which is guilty of a big host of vulnerabilities itself; Flash

    -Does it show I'm not a fan of Adobe? :D
  3. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    Yes, please change that dreadful screen it really is kind of freaky.

    I thinks it's great that Windows will include this feature specially since Adobe Reader is kind of a bloatware and to get Foxit Reader you have to navigate through a bunch of links to find the free version.

    I would imagine they would also integrate a plugin for browsers or at least for IE to render the PDFs inline.
  4. Emil

    Emil Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 154

    Screenshot changed.
  5. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +90

    No but it does show you're a fan of Chrome. Really, why would you install a browser to open PDF files.
  6. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    @lawfer I would not install Chrome just to open PDFs, I would have it already installed since it is the best browser experience on Windows, in my humble opinion. So that would just be an extra feature I get by having it :)

    Of course I just use use Windows occasionally for testing.
  7. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +90

    Chrome the best browser experience? That is as subjective as saying driving a motorcycle is better than driving a car, or vice versa. But your opinion is humble, so I respect that.

    However, it has nothing to do with downloading Chrome and using that feature, as I personally use it as my second browser and I do use the feature myself; its more like, why would you download a browser for the specific purpose of using its built-in PDF reader, which just so happens to be inferior to standalone software? I was judging <i>that</i>, not Chrome's built-in feature.
  8. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    I think Adobe needs all the friends it can get at this moment, since their cash cow has turned their back on them.

    Rafael Rivera? I wonder if that's the same guy whose instructions I used to bypass WGA when using Windows Update?
  9. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,907   +115 Staff Member

    Thank you :)

    I don't, I use Opera as my main browser :)

    And neither do I use Chrome's PDF reader much, even if I have to.
    I much prefer PDF-XChange Viewer;
    http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer
  10. Lokalaskurar

    Lokalaskurar TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 616

    Oh, would Adobe approve of Windows including a PDF reader? Because the only company I know that's more "jurisdictionally" correct than Microsoft, is Adobe. I predict yet another clash of the titans coming soon...
  11. Whoaman

    Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    Yet another Apple OS X feature rip. MS is just chock full of innovative new ideas.
  12. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TechSpot Guru Posts: 572   +37

    Nobody cares for your persistent Microsoft flaming.

    Can OSX run on ARM processors?
  13. Whoaman

    Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    'cept for you apparently. :p

    Next headline: Windows 8 to be called OS VIII Chameleon
     
  14. Good point. Adobe should have to sue Apple first.

    And last I checked, there are a dozen free PDF readers around. How can Adobe sue MS for including a PDF reader when they offer their own one free anyway?
  15. Whoaman

    Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    "Apple's Mac OS X operating system uses a central window server (created entirely by Apple) that caches window graphics as PDF, instead of storing and executing PostScript code. A graphics library called Quartz 2D provides PostScript-style imaging using the PDF rendering model (a subset, plus tweaks, of the PostScript model), but this is used by application frameworks?there is no PostScript present in the Mac OS X window server. Apple chose to use this model for a variety of reasons, including the avoidance of high Adobe-imposed licensing fees for DPS, and more efficient support of legacy Carbon and Classic code; QuickDraw-based applications use bitmapped drawing exclusively. Adobe's copyright stipulations for the PDF standard are much less restrictive, granting conditional copyright permission to anyone to use the format in software applications, free of charge."

    OS X does PDF at the core since the get-go (evolved from NeXT). Not sure why Adobe thought it could hassle Microsoft over the Office 2007 "Save as PDF".
  16. krayzie

    krayzie Newcomer, in training Posts: 62

    honestly its pdfs.. who cares who had it first...
  17. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    Adobe could easily sue because "free" is NOT equal "legally redistributable"; however, the PDF format is an "open standard" these days. Microsoft is almost certainly using their own (or licensed) implementation, so I doubt there will be a lawsuit brewing.

    The world has witnessed stranger things though... http://www.techspot.com/news/41908-apple-removes-vlc-app-from-app-store-gpl-to-blame.html
  18. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    That would be people whose self esteem is tied to what kind of product they own.

    [​IMG]
  19. Det

    Det Newcomer, in training Posts: 84

    "Modern Reader". What a surprising choice of name. What's gonna be the name of Windows "9"? Modern Windows?
  20. fpsgamerJR62

    fpsgamerJR62 Newcomer, in training Posts: 489

    Why not just build that kind of functionality into Notepad ? And also the ability to read MS Office documents ? Doesn't Microsoft offer separate free viewers for its different office formats ?


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