Windows XP Rebooting Randomly - Now Can't Re-install

By alan93
Jun 11, 2008
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  1. My intial problem was random reboots. Very frustrating!

    THings I tried:
    defrag
    system restore
    re-seated ram
    disconnected other peripherals
    Cleaned power supply 350w
    memtest (locked up, got black screen)
    tried one stick of ram 1024

    Now I tried to do a repair and it locks up every time at "installing network"
    I cant remove the nic because it is using the one on the mother board.

    Is my OS lost?
  2. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    If memtest locked up my first suspicion is you've got corrupted memory.
  3. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    ok

    I shot-gunned it and tried three more things.

    1. Swapped the one ram stick with the other
    2. Disconnected the 2nd monitor
    3. Re-seated the video card (EVGA)

    Now it installs past the "installing network" message

    Your guess as to what fixed it?

    Still not sure initial problem is solved yet
  4. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    My guess is that the switching of memory sticks did the job. Corrupted memory will wreack havoc in many ways and the symptoms are multiple. I speak from personal experience. :rolleyes:

    Did the video card seem "un-seated" to you? Just curious.

    Try connecting the second monitor and let us know if you still have stability.

    You could also try swapping that other stick for the current one and see if crashes occur.

    Let us know.
  5. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    oh man i don't want it to crash again. I think 20 is enough for one week.

    Another guess is power supply not enough for everything?
  6. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    ran driver detective and noticed alot of drivers out of date too.
  7. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    First, any more crashes since swapping the memory?

    Two, list your system specs to see if the PSU is enough for your PC. And what is the make of your PC?
  8. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    No more crashes since other single ram is used. Afraid to put other one back in.
    The XP repair and driver updates might have done it too.
    It seemed to crash last times when listening to streaming audio or mp3 files.

    Specs , let me see if i can do this.

    Built myself, always do.

    Amd 2800 xp Athlon
    Corsair 2 1gig Rams
    SiS board ? not sure which one
    SoundMax audio
    Geforce 7300 agp
    one tube monitor one flat screen
    4 usb devices
    reader
    cam
    usb hard drive
    printer
    hauppague video tv card
    Slave hard drive
    HP dvd writer
    Allied 350w PS
  9. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    Allied power supplies do not have the best of reputations. A good 400 - 425w psu by such reputable makers as Fortron would be a good choice.
  10. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    what about antec?
  11. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    I have run Antec in my old Pentium 3 system and I have one in my 939 but to be honest Antec's reputation has suffered in recent years due to subpar construction.

    However, Antec has Seasonic making a number of their models and here is a link to what looks like a good buy.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
     
  12. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    I am getting blue screens now instead of shutdowns.

    One time it was an Nvidea video card dll memory area.

    Last time it was a PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.

    I have no idea if its the RAM, hd , MB or PS.

    This is mind boggeling and I assume it will next be expensive.
  13. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    There's more to this nightmare.

    It crashes in safemode too.

    Sometimes it wont even boot to the bios.

    Just shoot me .
  14. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    From auhma.org:

    0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

    Requested data was not in memory. An invalid system memory address was referenced. Defective memory (including main memory, L2 RAM cache, video RAM) or incompatible software (including remote control and antivirus software) might cause this Stop message, as may other hardware problems (e.g., incorrect SCSI termination or a flawed PCI card).

    Run MemTest.

    Attach your minidumps: My Computer > C Drive > Windows Folder > Minidump Folder > Minidump Files. It is the files we need, not the whole folder.
  15. EL_Joker

    EL_Joker Newcomer, in training

    I had that similar problem once, come to find out the pc would over heat and reboot, went through sticks of memory, 2 video cards, and one power supply to finally go down to re-seating the cpu and apply fresh thermal paste. Hope it works out for you.
  16. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    A problem has been detected and windows has shut down to prevent damage to your system
  17. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Not even sure I can get to the dump files
  18. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    It could be your power supply, but I am still thinking it is your RAM. Then again, knowing computers it can be something totally mind boggling because it doesn't fit the parameters of trouble shooting.

    If you can eventually get into safe mode try to get those minidumps.

    Also, if you can borrow a friends extra RAM try that. Have you tried your other stick of RAM?

    You may want to transfer your HD to another PC and back-up all your important data and while you are at it run a full HD diagnostics.
  19. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    I'm thinking ram at this point too.

    I started getting corrupted system file messages on the blue screens, can bad ram do this?

    so tried to repair xp but it wont install it keeps getting stuck on "Network Installing"

    I had a boot utilities CD and started to do a HD test but I stopped it half way thinking it was a waste of time. will probably try that again.
  20. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    I have seen error messages of all sorts from corrupted memory that don't seem to have anything to do with memory. I speak from personal experience. So, yes to your question.

    HD tests are valuable. Even if my HD seems quite stable I will periodically run a test for maintenance as well as information.
  21. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Welllll

    I Tried something different.
    I found the latest bios flash from SiS and flashed it. Not easy to do considering I didn't have an a: on it.

    Anyways, the windowsxp install went through flawlessley after having stopped the last 8 times.

    Running good now on one Ram stick, testing it with memtest now.
    The other would not allow the computer to even boot to bios screen.

    Tested HD checked good.

    Here are the memdumpbs FINALLY.
  22. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    I may have been mis-diagnosing the problem.

    While the memory test was at 129% coverage. Both monitors on my EVGA dual monitor card went black but power and fan was still on . Got "no signal" display on monitors

    So I am trying to see if it's the dual vid card.

    Running on MB video jack now.

    Wondering if older tube monitor could be causing problem .
  23. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    Your first minidump reported error 0xC5: DRIVER_CORRUPTED_EXPOOL

    An attempt occurred to touch invalid memory at a process IRQL that is too high. This is almost always caused by drivers that have corrupted the system pool. If you’ve recently installed any new software, check to see if it’s properly installed; and check for updated drivers on the manufacturer’s web site.


    Your second dump was 0x50 and if you remember these errors can be caused by incompatible software such as an antivirus. The driver cited is aswSP.sys which belongs to Avast!

    Try uninstalling or updating Avast and see if that brings stability.
  24. alan93

    alan93 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Interesting thanks for that.
    Well one ram stick is definately bad as it wont post even.

    Yea got avast, tried turning it off a bunch of times too while trouble shooting.

    Wondering why my video is cutting out with dual card too

    It works fine on MB vga.

    One program I did install a day or 2 before all this started happening was some driver update tool I found somewhere. Not sure if it was part of problem.
  25. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    If you have bad drivers it could be affecting many things. Whatever that software you installed was I would uninstall and see what the outcome is.
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