World's fastest Internet arrives in Tokyo: 2Gbps for $50/mo

[Guest]

Correct me if I am wrong but, for a normal user, what's the point of having a download speed that exceeds the writing speed of HDD's? I mean theoritically 2GBps will give you about 200-250mbps download speed. My HDD can write at most 90mbps. Even if I had an SSD, it would have too few GBs so it wouldnt matter anyway. So my view is that, for the average user 2GBps is an overkill.

 

[Guest]

The guest above me have a valid point. I mean, if the HDD write speed can't keep up with the download speed, isn't that mean we wasted the bandwidth?

2Gbps is probably useful on certain circumstances, but as a normal user, I argue 2Gbps is needed everyday especially if my hardware couldn't keep up with it.

But hey, who knows? Probably they will make HDD with write speed nearing 2Gbps because of this.

 

[misor]

Lol, here in the Philippines (rough equivalent of 40 pesos to one u.s. dollar):
http://tattoo.globe.com.ph/
512kbps globe telecom wimax is ~20$/month
1mbps globe telecom wimax is ~25$/month
globe telecom wimax plus landline >30$/month

globe telecom fiber in selected areas in the national capital region from 10mbps, 15mbps, 50mpbs, 100mbps.
http://tattoo.globe.com.ph/torque/details

similar wimax rates with rival companies.
globe telecom offers rebates to customers who renew wimax contracts.

dsl is offered in cities and nearby towns.
wimax and lte coverage in selected areas only.
(the Philippines is an archipelagic country)

 

[Guest]

Well downstream speed is also depends on the other side connection.
200 - 250 MBps is on optimal condition I think, depends on how fast other servers send you the data.

 

[Guest]

..and here in my country, I must pay about $15 per month for connection up to 3.1mbps with 5 GB usage/quota

 

[Guest]

Shame on Eastern Canada. 5mpbs Down .5 up for about the same price.

 

[wiyosaya]

Meanwhile, the US continues its use of sneakernet for the same price as 2Gbs service in Japan.

 

[wiyosaya]

Correct me if I am wrong but, for a normal user, what's the point of having a download speed that exceeds the writing speed of HDD's? I mean theoritically 2GBps will give you about 200-250mbps download speed. My HDD can write at most 90mbps. Even if I had an SSD, it would have too few GBs so it wouldnt matter anyway. So my view is that, for the average user 2GBps is an overkill.

Imagine streaming video directly to your TV instead of your HD. IMHO, that scenario would be a prime use of those types of speeds.

 

[amstech]

And I am paying $105 for Timewarner Digital TV w/ HD Channels and "Turbo" 2.5mpbs! AAAARRRGGGHHHHH

 

[cliffordcooley]

The guest above me have a valid point. I mean, if the HDD write speed can't keep up with the download speed, isn't that mean we wasted the bandwidth?

Our vehicle engines must be wasted as well when we are forced to drive a speed limit. An ISP bandwidth cap is nothing more than a speed limit because of various conditions. The condition you mention would simply be your own limitation, not a cap set by the ISP's.

The waste would be how such high bandwidth would be used, while others would not have options for this service. But then who cares how this service is paid for as long as it is progression. Progression means eventually everyone will have the service, it's only a matter of time. The only true questions are, how much time would it take to supply everyone with this service and what is the hold back?

 

[Jad Chaar]

How about backing up data to cloud? Here's a case study for you. 155mins of 1920x1080 30fps (that is JPG compressed video at 11MB/s - not RGB encoded or RAW) video takes 100GB. That is standard output for a smartphone btw. If you have a 1mbps uplink, that takes 12 DAYS to upload. Tell me that is practical?

What if you take video for a living? A smartphone is low spec compared to professional kit. And that's just a video specific analogy. Uploading *anything* is a problem on current broadband in your country and mine.

Well you are talking about a completely different sector though. If someone was a professional, they would have professional equipment. Hence, you will need the best internet. The norm here in New York is beginning to move from 15 Mbps Download / 5 Mbps upload, to 50 Mbps Download / 25 Mbps Upload for 10 bucks more. They dont even provide a replacement router for the glitchy one they provided me. They are forcing me to move to the faster internet since they dont have anymore routers for the lower end internet speeds. They are all refurbished. My point is that there are packages especially suited for professionals. A 50down/25up speed would yield a 12 hour upload time for the type of file you mentioned. And a 100 Mbps will yield a 6 hour upload window. That may not be convenient But it does suit peoples needs. But I see where you are going, there can be a need for this internet speed. But in the end, it is a luxury.

 

[cliffordcooley]

The norm here in New York is beginning to move from 15 Mbps Download / 5 Mbps upload, to 50 Mbps Download / 25 Mbps Upload for 10 bucks more. They are forcing me to move to the faster internet since they dont have anymore routers for the lower end internet speeds.

I hope they are not forcing the extra $10 on you because of their lack in supplies. However I do see this technique used quite often, forcing people with broken products into new contracts. New contracts that require extra features because of new hardware capabilities.

 

[MrBungle]

Correct me if I am wrong but, for a normal user, what's the point of having a download speed that exceeds the writing speed of HDD's? I mean theoritically 2GBps will give you about 200-250mbps download speed. My HDD can write at most 90mbps. Even if I had an SSD, it would have too few GBs so it wouldnt matter anyway. So my view is that, for the average user 2GBps is an overkill.

Its worse than that, the vast overwhelming majority of network connections are 1Gbps... motherboard NICs haven't sped up in a decade, you'd need a managed switch and 2+ NICs in a NIC team or a 10Gbps network connection to even be able to keep up with your internet connection. Either of those options are going to cost a grand or more (since it requires enterprise class gear) to setup putting it out of reach of most consumers.

 

[Jad Chaar]

I hope they are not forcing the extra $10 on you because of their lack in supplies. However I do see this technique used quite often, forcing people with broken products into new contracts. New contracts that require extra features because of new hardware capabilities.

I am not gonna pay verizon 1 more dollar. I already spend >$300 with them per month with cellular + home phone/internet/cable(DVR) including equipment costs.

 

[Rick]

Correct me if I am wrong but, for a normal user, what's the point of having a download speed that exceeds the writing speed of HDD's? I mean theoritically 2GBps will give you about 200-250mbps download speed. My HDD can write at most 90mbps. Even if I had an SSD, it would have too few GBs so it wouldnt matter anyway. So my view is that, for the average user 2GBps is an overkill.

This doesn't invalidate your point, but your hard drive likely reaches 90MB/sec rather than 90Mbps -- 90Mbps is just over 11MB/sec... this is a matter of bits vs. bytes.

Even so, 2Gbps is still 250MB/sec which is still much faster than any consumer mechanical hard drive.

It's worth noting that replacing your HDD with a modern SSD would remove that bottleneck, though.

 

[Geforcepat]

That's it! I'm moving to Tokyo

 

[Lionvibez]

Correct me if I am wrong but, for a normal user, what's the point of having a download speed that exceeds the writing speed of HDD's? I mean theoritically 2GBps will give you about 200-250mbps download speed. My HDD can write at most 90mbps. Even if I had an SSD, it would have too few GBs so it wouldnt matter anyway. So my view is that, for the average user 2GBps is an overkill.

This doesn't invalidate your point, but your hard drive likely reaches 90MB/sec rather than 90Mbps -- 90Mbps is just over 11MB/sec... this is a matter of bits vs. bytes.

Even so, 2Gbps is still 250MB/sec which is still much faster than any consumer mechanical hard drive.

It's worth noting that replacing your HDD with a modern SSD would remove that bottleneck, though.

Agreed with the SSD.

you also have option B

Which is just to Raid 0 two or three hard drives which will bring that write speed up to 200-300+ mb. And Hard drive are cheap these days.

 

[Darth Shiv]

Well you are talking about a completely different sector though. If someone was a professional, they would have professional equipment. Hence, you will need the best internet. The norm here in New York is beginning to move from 15 Mbps Download / 5 Mbps upload, to 50 Mbps Download / 25 Mbps Upload for 10 bucks more. They dont even provide a replacement router for the glitchy one they provided me. They are forcing me to move to the faster internet since they dont have anymore routers for the lower end internet speeds. They are all refurbished. My point is that there are packages especially suited for professionals. A 50down/25up speed would yield a 12 hour upload time for the type of file you mentioned. And a 100 Mbps will yield a 6 hour upload window. That may not be convenient But it does suit peoples needs. But I see where you are going, there can be a need for this internet speed. But in the end, it is a luxury.

With services moving to cloud based, it is becoming the norm. Definitely not a luxury as any country with modern infrastructure like South Korea, Japan, Sweden etc have.

In our country, a home user usually has access to copper connections with 1mbps uploads. With fibre rollout, physical limitations on downlink and uplink speeds are removed and people have the *option* of choosing a plan that suits their needs. Without fibre, you are chained to much harsher physical limitations. I.e. your options are far more limited.

I'd love 50mbps/25mbps but that simply is not an option here because the physical infrastructure to provide that doesn't exist.

Also, our company approached 3rd party fibre providers. We were quoted $20,000 per MONTH for 100mbit fibre. If fibre was available via the NBN (national fibre rollout that has not completed and may be prevented by the opposition party here), we would pay $150 per month for the exact same specifications and download/upload limits. There are very few companies that can justify that price for that level of service. Let alone individuals who are professionals!

 

[Darth Shiv]

Agreed with the SSD.

you also have option B

Which is just to Raid 0 two or three hard drives which will bring that write speed up to 200-300+ mb. And Hard drive are cheap these days.

Also a single OCZ Vector or Samsung 840 Pro does 500+MB write. RAID-0 and you are looking at close to 1GB/s. That is gigabyte not gigabit. Can do that for close to a dollar a GB. Disk speed is not the bottleneck!

It's funny how SATA 3, ethernet speed are now big factors.

 

[Jad Chaar]

Wow 20K for fiber. I guess I am fortunate for standard fiber here in the US.

 

[Darth Shiv]

Wow 20K for fiber. I guess I am fortunate for standard fiber here in the US.

Yes we were stunned. Needless to say we went with bonded ADSL2+ connections.

 

[soldier1969]

110mbs down 25 up for $112 a month and no install fee with Comcast. A $540 install fee and sign a 2 yr contract? Lol. No one here in the US would do that.

 

[Lionvibez]

Also a single OCZ Vector or Samsung 840 Pro does 500+MB write. RAID-0 and you are looking at close to 1GB/s. That is gigabyte not gigabit. Can do that for close to a dollar a GB. Disk speed is not the bottleneck!

It's funny how SATA 3, ethernet speed are now big factors.

It isn't really a big factor now.

More than 80% of the US doesn't have anything close to 1Gbps speeds only whoever can get google currently. I think that bottleneck will be a bigger issues in 5+ years.

 

[Lionvibez]

110mbs down 25 up for $112 a month and no install fee with Comcast. A $540 install fee and sign a 2 yr contract? Lol. No one here in the US would do that.

speak for yourself.

If I could get this service I would pay a $1000 install and sign a 5 year contract.

As long as there are no data caps I'm sold.

 

[Guest]

London now getting 120mb via cable/fibre for around £32pm they bundle it all up with TV, phone and Tivo so they end up charging any where from £45 to 85. Can also bundle in mobile as well. One freakin bill for all, one bill to rule them. Me ? thinking of fibre @ 80mb for £24 inc line rental. special deal for friends.