Woz: Maybe Microsoft is a different company now "I do see a lot of stuff coming out from Microsoft in the consumer arena. A lot of people like to say that Microsoft's had no successes in the last so many years, but the Xbox is a success, and certainly Kinect." He's certainly right. And he's certainly enthusiastic about Microsoft's phone output. "They have such a striking visual appearance, which is a lot of what Steve Jobs was always looking for -- the art and technology, the convergence of art and technology," he said. He's also very keen to get his hands on Microsoft's new PC/tablet thingy, the Surface. "I want to own one. I want to use one," he said.