Xbox Live bans prompt class action lawsuit

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My xbox is all chrome, a case mod. Nothing about the software was modded, So does that violate a contract? Even though i dont have xbox live
 
they should sue the crap out of microsoft they should not be allowed to charge people to access the internet if you already pay for internet access from local ISP's.

bill gates and microsoft have made billions off people, if you ask me it should be against the law.

as for getting caught with a modded box. welllll you got caught....ooooops

but did they set people up so that they could make millions ??????
 
I know xbox games are a little over priced, well, a lot over priced and Microsoft should do something about that. And the timing for the bans was a little to good to be anything other than planned. But, I don't think they should be on the end of legal action (for a change). They have warned users this will happen on many occasions and banned lots of people for modding the console. The people that got banned knew it could (and at some point, would) happen and that they are breaking the law using copied games. So it's just tough s**t for them. I find myself, for the first time ever, siding with Microsoft over this one.

Next thieves will be taking legal action against the police for arresting them.... For a while at least people with modded xbox's won't be able to use all the gadgets and stuff around to cheat online & the servers wont be as crowed so online gaming will be smother. I'm happy with the timing of this set of bans.
 
glenoman said:
they should sue the crap out of microsoft they should not be allowed to charge people to access the internet if you already pay for internet access from local ISP's.

bill gates and microsoft have made billions off people, if you ask me it should be against the law.

as for getting caught with a modded box. welllll you got caught....ooooops

but did they set people up so that they could make millions ??????
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Microsoft aren't charging for internet access, they are charging for access to the xbox live game servers... And lets face it at the moment they are a lot better than most of the games servers run by the games developers. EA probably wouldn't have spent all that money upgrading the game servers hosting battelfield: Modern Combat if it wasn't for Microsoft moaning at them because we were moaning to Microsoft about online gameplay in those games.
 
In reference to backing up games...perhaps this would not be an issue if we utilized a storage media which wasn't so vulnerable. I don't see why game dvds couldn't have a case over them at all times, like a large version of the minidisc.(obviously we couldn't just switch to it right now, but you get the idea)
 
Its nice that Microsoft is Judge and Jury and declares all guilty without representation!!
I don't care about cheating but why did they also stop all the external usb memory units for your saved games to stop working??
I feel they had no right to also stick it to everyone to get at the few cheaters. From a conversation with Microsoft - They said they want to stop all 3rd party manufacturers (competition like Datel, memory max, etc.), and that only Microsoft products will work.
I see lawsuits that, like AMD did againts Intel, will start to finally put Microsoft in its place. Microsoft again is trying to stop competition with a lame "lets blame it on cheaters" to get at everyone and get rid of competition.
 
Yes the Xbox's still have offline functionality, however less than 10 percent of the games created to be played on the Xbox have NO online content. That being said the bans take away some of the largest aspects of the system.
 
tonylukac said:
Why are all these terms of service the word of God? I don't believe in God either.
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Your personal theological views aside, EULAs aren't the word of God, but they ARE a legal contract that you, the user, agree to abide by. In this case, you are agreeing to follow your end of the EULA in order to be allowed to use specific features of Microsoft's property, including the entire Live network. You break the EULA by doing something like, say, illegally modifying your console, you have forfeited all rights to those features and properties that Microsoft was providing to you. YOU broke the contract, not Microsoft. At that point, MS has every right to refuse service to any individual who does not respect their contractual obligations.

Again, not the word of any deity, just a basic law. Common sense would usually dictate that those who broke their contracts have no legal recourse. But, unfortunately, greedy (or attention starved) lawyers, and the modders who feel they should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want with absolutely no consequences, they just seem to be in short supply of that common sense.
 
I think the peoplewho modd their consoles just to play pirated games should be banned. I pay for games that I buy and it is unfair for some jerk to go online and not only play the game early but to play it for free. If Microsoft is just doing this to make more Xbox 360 console sales due to the fact that if someones console is banned this forces them to go out and buy another console then I am against that. That would be poor business ethics and pure greed.
 
Yall do know every type of business with terms of service do the same thing, Blizzard bans your account even if you have a half a year left on it with no refund, YOU AGREE TO THE TOS. It sucks and MS is getting money out of it, but that's how it goes, maybe you shouldn't mod?
 
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Ur just one of them... if ur sooo concerned about ur games getting scratch, then start taking care of ur sht.. You said "But Xbox especially. ive never brokn a PS3 game, but my xbox games seem to always be broken, as for my Wii games, well I only use them 1 or 2 times a month so...It seem to me you HATE MS soo bad and giving them a bad rep. If you think they are that bad, Please do me the favor stop buying thier products and go play wit ur shitty SLOW PS3 and Wii. get a fkin life dude, people like u make me sick with stupid comments. You have no idea how much time, money, investment goes into making one of the BEST console and online experience MS has put together. ur shitty PS3 can't even match the quality of what MS has to offer besides the Blu-Gay player. So stop ur wining and look at the whole picture.
 
Who cares what the law firm should go after, they have no case.... MS CLEARLY stated in thier agreement, in any way if you mod your system, your service will be "TERMINATED" end of story...People who got banned are crying like little beeyaches.
 
FYI, I wouldnt say that if I were you. Saying that the 360 is CHEAP.. Do your homework carefully before posting comments like this. Let me give you an example what the word CHEAP means. Take a PS3 wireless controller in one hand, then take a 360 wireless in your other hand feel the weight difference? Also, feel the way the analog sticks are on the PS3? They feel CHEAP hhaaaa... I thought soo. Now feel the analog stick on the 360 they feel SOLID. To this day, I'm still playing with the original 360 wireless controller and never failed on me yet. I know people who own BOTH systems and their PS3 controllers failed on them after 4months of abuse.
 
Remember kids... Class Action Lawsuit is lawyer talk for "sign this sheet, and help us get an absurd amount of money."
 
I'm sorry but you need to go back to school an re educate your self by saying such stupid sht.. MS and ISP are 2 different services u dumb a..
 
To anwser your question... You remember "Rainbow 6" for the original XBOX? U recall a device name "Action Replay" Datel made a cheat code for that game where you throw flaming bottles at your enemy. They called it "Flamin coctails" There was nothing you cant do to save your a.. So you tell me, is that fun to play online when you know someone on the other end is CHEATING?? So theres your anwser.
 
MS has every right to ban those with "backup games" from the Live system.

Money hungry lawyers will just have their baseless case thrown out.
 
To ALL of those who got banned and whining or a MS hater....Read this first...before making bad judgement on MS

Microsoft Reacts to Possible Class-Action Lawsuit over Bans
>> From financialpost.com:
Microsoft Corp. has responded to a possible class-action lawsuit over banning up to one million Xbox 360 consoles from accessing its online gaming service, arguing the company is well within its rights to ban users from Xbox Live.

A spokesperson from Microsoft reacted to the possible lawsuit on Friday. "Piracy is illegal and modifying an Xbox 360 is a violation of the Xbox Live Terms of Use. Microsoft is well within its legal rights to ban these users from Xbox Live."
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Microsoft's Xbox Live chief on bans: not 1 Million
>> From venturebeat.com:
We sat down this week with Marc Whitten, the general manager of Xbox Live, to catch up on the latest with the service at the Streaming Media West show.

* VB: There were stories that talked about how Microsoft knocked out a lot of modders from Xbox Live. I recall that early on there were maybe 1 or 2 percent of the people who were using modded machines. Why would there be such a large number now? One report said it was a million modders knocked out.

* MW: It's a cat and mouse game. These were people that were pirating software. We try to keep sanctity of life from a safety and anti-cheating perspective and we protect our partners. We didn't release the number. I cannot explain to you why people would think it was a million people. It wasn't a million people. Check the veracity of that claim. It was one news source. I think we do a really good job understanding what people are doing on the system. That applies to intellectual property (piracy) and how we treat the community in terms of harassment. We are committed to making it better and better.
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