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Xbox Live bans prompt class action lawsuit

Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Jos, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. The machine gets banned and the customer is still being charged for a service they no longer have any use for, since they have nothing to access it with. At that point MS is charging for a service that they know is of no use to that customer. I would say they are guilty of illegal enrichment. MS is smart say 1,000,000 customers x 50cents a day until they cancel their accounts. Do the math not to bad a take for providing nothing and knowing that fact. MS should have notified these accounts of the impending ban, that way the choice would have been available to the customer to end their account to avoid paying for a service they no longer needed. This is about the public enforcing Ethical behavior on a not so ethical corporation. Its not about making money from lawsuits or getting over on the poor misunderstood company. It's every citizens duty to help keep our businesses in line.
  2. PCIGamer Newcomer, in training Posts: 113

    their account is not banned, the console is. They can sign in to Xbox Live from another console. What is the problem?
  3. PCIGamer. Please read an TRY to understand what is written before you you make ***** statments.I you have a problem with that please contact an adult to explain. "their account is not banned, the console is. They can sign in to Xbox Live from another console. What is the problem?"


    Their are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive *****s
  4. There is nothing illegal about microsoft making money. People should be happy they were able to play as long as they did. As crappy as microsoft is, they aren't stupid when it comes to making money. Of course they would maximize profits before banning. the live accounts are still active so why would they offer refund for remaining time. All ya got to do is get another xbox and don't modify it.
  5. No one should have to buy a new console just to use xbox live. that just means more money for microsoft. they should refund all the money they stolen from people 2 wrongs don't make a right thats an old saying and microsoft should know that. i don;t feel bad for them 60.00 for a game is highway robbery and almost 90% of the games out there are terrible anyways
  6. My xbox is all chrome, a case mod. Nothing about the software was modded, So does that violate a contract? Even though i dont have xbox live
     
  7. glenoman Newcomer, in training

    they should sue the crap out of microsoft they should not be allowed to charge people to access the internet if you already pay for internet access from local ISP's.

    bill gates and microsoft have made billions off people, if you ask me it should be against the law.

    as for getting caught with a modded box. welllll you got caught....ooooops

    but did they set people up so that they could make millions ??????
  8. I know xbox games are a little over priced, well, a lot over priced and Microsoft should do something about that. And the timing for the bans was a little to good to be anything other than planned. But, I don't think they should be on the end of legal action (for a change). They have warned users this will happen on many occasions and banned lots of people for modding the console. The people that got banned knew it could (and at some point, would) happen and that they are breaking the law using copied games. So it's just tough s**t for them. I find myself, for the first time ever, siding with Microsoft over this one.

    Next thieves will be taking legal action against the police for arresting them.... For a while at least people with modded xbox's won't be able to use all the gadgets and stuff around to cheat online & the servers wont be as crowed so online gaming will be smother. I'm happy with the timing of this set of bans.
  9. Microsoft aren't charging for internet access, they are charging for access to the xbox live game servers... And lets face it at the moment they are a lot better than most of the games servers run by the games developers. EA probably wouldn't have spent all that money upgrading the game servers hosting battelfield: Modern Combat if it wasn't for Microsoft moaning at them because we were moaning to Microsoft about online gameplay in those games.
  10. mattfrompa TechSpot Maniac Posts: 470

    In reference to backing up games...perhaps this would not be an issue if we utilized a storage media which wasn't so vulnerable. I don't see why game dvds couldn't have a case over them at all times, like a large version of the minidisc.(obviously we couldn't just switch to it right now, but you get the idea)
  11. siiix Newcomer, in training Posts: 29

    does not matter is payback time ;)
  12. Its nice that Microsoft is Judge and Jury and declares all guilty without representation!!
    I don't care about cheating but why did they also stop all the external usb memory units for your saved games to stop working??
    I feel they had no right to also stick it to everyone to get at the few cheaters. From a conversation with Microsoft - They said they want to stop all 3rd party manufacturers (competition like Datel, memory max, etc.), and that only Microsoft products will work.
    I see lawsuits that, like AMD did againts Intel, will start to finally put Microsoft in its place. Microsoft again is trying to stop competition with a lame "lets blame it on cheaters" to get at everyone and get rid of competition.
  13. Yes the Xbox's still have offline functionality, however less than 10 percent of the games created to be played on the Xbox have NO online content. That being said the bans take away some of the largest aspects of the system.
  14. Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,076   +84

    Your personal theological views aside, EULAs aren't the word of God, but they ARE a legal contract that you, the user, agree to abide by. In this case, you are agreeing to follow your end of the EULA in order to be allowed to use specific features of Microsoft's property, including the entire Live network. You break the EULA by doing something like, say, illegally modifying your console, you have forfeited all rights to those features and properties that Microsoft was providing to you. YOU broke the contract, not Microsoft. At that point, MS has every right to refuse service to any individual who does not respect their contractual obligations.

    Again, not the word of any deity, just a basic law. Common sense would usually dictate that those who broke their contracts have no legal recourse. But, unfortunately, greedy (or attention starved) lawyers, and the modders who feel they should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want with absolutely no consequences, they just seem to be in short supply of that common sense.
  15. I think the peoplewho modd their consoles just to play pirated games should be banned. I pay for games that I buy and it is unfair for some jerk to go online and not only play the game early but to play it for free. If Microsoft is just doing this to make more Xbox 360 console sales due to the fact that if someones console is banned this forces them to go out and buy another console then I am against that. That would be poor business ethics and pure greed.
  16. Yall do know every type of business with terms of service do the same thing, Blizzard bans your account even if you have a half a year left on it with no refund, YOU AGREE TO THE TOS. It sucks and MS is getting money out of it, but that's how it goes, maybe you shouldn't mod?
  17. RealXboxMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 139

    Reply to gobbybobby

    Ur just one of them... if ur sooo concerned about ur games getting scratch, then start taking care of ur sht.. You said "But Xbox especially. ive never brokn a PS3 game, but my xbox games seem to always be broken, as for my Wii games, well I only use them 1 or 2 times a month so...It seem to me you HATE MS soo bad and giving them a bad rep. If you think they are that bad, Please do me the favor stop buying thier products and go play wit ur shitty SLOW PS3 and Wii. get a fkin life dude, people like u make me sick with stupid comments. You have no idea how much time, money, investment goes into making one of the BEST console and online experience MS has put together. ur shitty PS3 can't even match the quality of what MS has to offer besides the Blu-Gay player. So stop ur wining and look at the whole picture.
  18. RealXboxMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 139

    tekkaraiden, I totally 100% gree wit u.
  19. RealXboxMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 139

    Who cares what the law firm should go after, they have no case.... MS CLEARLY stated in thier agreement, in any way if you mod your system, your service will be "TERMINATED" end of story...People who got banned are crying like little beeyaches.
  20. RealXboxMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 139

    FYI, I wouldnt say that if I were you. Saying that the 360 is CHEAP.. Do your homework carefully before posting comments like this. Let me give you an example what the word CHEAP means. Take a PS3 wireless controller in one hand, then take a 360 wireless in your other hand feel the weight difference? Also, feel the way the analog sticks are on the PS3? They feel CHEAP hhaaaa... I thought soo. Now feel the analog stick on the 360 they feel SOLID. To this day, I'm still playing with the original 360 wireless controller and never failed on me yet. I know people who own BOTH systems and their PS3 controllers failed on them after 4months of abuse.