I have XP with SP3, did this with SP1 also, so patching did nothing. I do a shutdown and it's taking a lot longer to shutdown or restart now. Is there a utlity out there that has shown to be bulletproof for clean/fast shutdowns? Or perhaps give me the techie shutdown details so I might easily snuff out this problem? Right now, if I have lootdb running it hangs and never even shuts down until that program is ended, that's just an aside, it's still taking 2 mins or more to shut down when it does without lootdb running. I've defragged, I've run some registry cleaners, etc etc, I do not have malware or a virus. I use System Suite Pro 9.0 by Avanquest as my firewall, AS/Malware stopper, as well as Spybot: Search and Destroy and Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware (both free editions), I can't find anything that is doing this, that is obvious. Is there a service shown in services.msc (put that in the RUN box) that is used for this process, that I may have disabled?