wdawg, I'll let momok handle the logs but wanted to make one comment: be careful of the sites you download from. When possible, use the site of the company that writes the program or a mirror site that is trusted. There are some site that tack on extras when you download from them. I see downloads offered on the torrent sites. There are file sharing and are not safe or reliable with respect to only getting the download you want without 'extras'..