Vista continues to do poorly in business adoption rates

By Justin Mann on February 2, 2009, 5:07 PM
For all of Microsoft's pushing of Vista, including boasts of incredible sales, reception of it has remained poor. Businesses around the world have been unwilling to upgrade, and after the initial waves the adoption rate for it has remained low. In the enterprise, despite being two years from launch, Vista is still found on less than 10% of business computers. That indicates that in the past 7 months, virtually nothing has changed.

This may play into Microsoft's favor, as they prepare to roll out Windows 7 at the end of this year or early 2010. Even if Vista's numbers continue to climb very slowly, it won't be long before a third option for businesses is available. It might also be encouragement for Microsoft to release Windows 7 ahead of schedule, though that is nothing more than speculation at this point. Of course, a rep from Microsoft claims that migrations to Vista are still in process, so before Windows 7 comes out we might actually see it break a 10% share.

The further we get from the Vista launch and closer to a Windows 7 launch, the more it seems that Vista may be skipped over by many. Regardless of any technological advantages it may have, the business world is a very important market for Microsoft, and Vista is doing poorly there.




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MichaelLS said:
Very Weak 'Speculation' and Very 'Optimistic' is a bit of an extreme understatement don't you think? Obviously you haven't tried to use this product out side of the home! What a mess! No reasonable Enterprise / Admin's would go anywhere near this disaster. FACT!The product was even banned inside Intel.Sad! What has become of the great Micro$oft?Who wants to pay hard earned cash for a chance to 'adopt' / sign on to Alpha test Windows 7 ??? Anyone wish to risk their Enterprise on this? At this time in the economy?Is not Windows 7 based on the Vista platform. Let me see if I understand this? The base product has failed for the most part, so lets make it the underpinnings of our next Alpha release. Hmmmm! How to kill a company!!!Sigh! No wonder Apple is posting profits and Micro$oft is laying off employees! It's not hard to figure this one out!!!
Julio said:
Hello, apple fan boy.
tengeta said:
My company uses Vista, guess what we have more uptime than ever.Its a few steps short of Linux, but on a 10 story staircase.Actually use before you verbally abuse.
MichaelLS said:
Why hello Stockholm Syndrome WhooLeeOoo! - have you tried Linux? How about Unix? And yes, OS-X works very well also!I think its very interesting that you poor fellows always revert to acting so childish.Its very sad to see the once very well respected and established Micro$oft come crashing down. I am sure that for you name calling Windows OS Fan Boys / Cultists, its got to be painful! Why? Technology moves on. This old Head for Tail OS design is terribly flawed. Its time for Micro$oft to move on! So.. why doesn't Micro$oft do just that! They claim to have the resources, the money, so lets see something new and technologically advanced. Not another Band Aid tacked onto the older OS. The time has come to stop copying tiny little Apple and be innovative. Be a leader! Not a follower!There, There!
Emin3nce said:
I have tried love, and i'm sorry but in the hundreds of business environments i have helped deploy, Vista has helped in none.And i did give it a chance!It's just not 'that' great. Some compatability issues tend to top off 'not that great' to 'not worth the upgrade'.However, so far windows 7 looks to work fine in many of the testing instances i've run... albeit that damn taskbar is a little bit of a joke.Then again, who's to say that the poor release of vista wasn't a long-term marketing strategy to hype windows 7? much the same as ME...
MichaelLS said:
Oh surely not, I find it very hard to believe Micro$oft would deliberately frustrate thousands upon thousands just to build up to a new release. No way!Sounds more like very poor management and terrible in house testing of the product they hoped would lead the industry again.As for your comment about the task bar in 7, right on. Still, why all the USB Interface issues. Sounds issues. Graphical interface issues.Again! Not well thought out nor properly tested. Then look deep inside. Hmmm! Very familiar! I've seen this somewhere recently! Oh, yeah - in Vista!Hopefully... things will drastically improve.. and very soon!
DarkCobra said:
Well with Windows 7 coming the future sales of Vista will definitely dwindle. I do agree that Windows 7 will probably be "Vista finally done right" . . . or certainly better. You know the world is big enough for more than a single operating system, in fact is good that we have more than one. People should chose the platform they prefer, be it Windows, Apple, Linux or whatever. All this acrimony, name calling and put downs of other systems is counter-productive to us all. All the systems have their positives and their issues.
MichaelLS said:
Absolutely - We / I use all 5 major OS's and frankly, Micro$oft is really letting a lot of people down. Terribly! I would never deploy 2003 Server again. Vista will not happen on my watch. The frustrations are simply way over the limit. For Windows platform requirements - frankly - XP Pro SP3 is doing just fine. Laugh at all the Apple Cultists if you like, the virtual Windows platforms deployed on Macs are really nice and very functional. Nice to backup and restore the OS in seconds. Pretty hard to beat. For me personally - Windows never ran so well than as it does in VMware. Try it out! Nice to have all major OS's running on the same hardware virtually trouble free. Makes my day a joy!
tengeta said:
Look, my argument for Vista is honestly pending hardware requirements. We overspent for our hardware a long time ago though, and all of it can run it effortlessly. Obviously you wouldn't put Leopard Server on an older machine because of what, I dunno, maybe THEIR hardware requirements? At the end of the day, the only OS'es that survive the resource war are Linux and BSD, but if your that picky about resources I bet you aren't here posting with your time.
aolish said:
why is everyone surprised that Vista isnt being adopted by business. Are there any compelling reasons why a business should drop xp over vista? What are the benefits? There is none. In addition, businesses would have to go through all the testing and compatibility issues just to make vista work. In the end they get a prettier UI with better searching? No doubt the majority of business is waiting for Win7. It'd be pointless now to get Vista since 7 is already coming out.
brownpaper said:
MichaelLS, you are a noob. Yes, Vista has not been adopted by businesses. But tell me: if OSX is so great, then why is OSX not even considered by businesses?I know, it is because Apple is unfriendly towards businesses and is a severe proprietary platform to deal with. They charge outrageous prices for hardware and have poor business support.Linux will be adopted by businesses before OSX. Apple is a horrible company to conduct business with.MichaelLS, do not smear your mascara, wipe the lint off of your black turtleneck, and do not forget your man-purse as you leave the Starbucks with your MacBook Air.
Julio said:
[b]Originally posted by aolish:[/b][quote]why is everyone surprised that Vista isnt being adopted by business. Are there any compelling reasons why a business should drop xp over vista? [/quote]I didn't elaborate on my previous one liner, but this sums it up nicely. Adopting Vista on general purpose business machines would be a terrible decision, but that's not nearly an excuse to say Microsoft should do more like Apple who are even more consumer oriented.
MichaelLS said:
Tengeta: Actually, unlike Vista - Leopard runs very well on a lot of older platforms. Not true! And - you do know that Leopard / OS-X is built on BSD - right? That's why Apple's platforms are so rock solid - today. Wasn't always that way!There is much to be said about the architecture of the individual OS. That proves out in the end. Vista is simply not there as a Head for Tail design. Never will be in my years of experience. Simply too vulnerable and not efficient use of available resources.Also - if you want to see Vista shine - load it on a Leopard Mac in a virtual platform. Puts the upgraded hardware most need to run Vista to shame. Really sad! AOLish: The search engine is very much the same. Wax and Polish don't make the grade. Business and Enterprise were really hoping for better performance with a much more stable and secure platform with much improved graphics for todays demanding apps - as was promised! Didn't happen did it!! Recycled Paper: Noob - as in Newbie? Oh please! After 35 years in this industry I think not. OS-X is performance grade in the music industry / in the printing industry / in almost all scientific communities. FACT! Vista - went home infected to play FPS games.Show me a magazine that was not laid out on a Mac? Do you realize how many commercials you watch that are made on Macs? It is all terribly embarrassing for Micro$oft.Yes, Linux and Unix rule the server industry. Although - its pretty scary to see the little Apple Xserve stomp them on a regular basis. That has to really got to hurt Micro$oft also. Support is great there too! Certainly maintenance is much less.Not true. We always do much better with Liberal-ville Al-Gored to death Apple than we do with the India based Micro$oft support centers. What a waste of time that is!!HP and Dell support - a completely lost and hopeless cause!Outrageous prices? What are we talking about here? - Enterprise - or your little under $500.00 3/4 empty tower from HP / Dell? You paid how much for your empty $100.00 manufacturing cost PeeCee. At least the Apple gear has some very significant hardware design behind them. Very Solidly Built little boxes.I'll tell you what Recycled Paper - the only part that I really miss is the building of our own systems. That's where the Linux boxes really shine for me. I love designing and building the hardware. Hard to do in the tight little Apple world.And - Recycled Paper - careful - your hate speech is going very much against the grain of your newly elected president. You'll soon be arrested for that kind of talk if he gets his way in the little white house. Frankly, I despise the wicked and debauched behavior of you emotionally unstable San Francisco types. You can have your dirty little lives. But, to grant you people special rights as some sort of a special mistreated minority - that's going way beyond the limits for most all of us.White shirt and tie for me little man! Hee, hee! Steven Sick Jobs can keep his turtle neckie. And his outrageous income and his shiny new Gulfstream 550. How sick is that?Then, there is Billy Bob Gates in his Custom Boeing 757. Sigh! Why?I still don't get the Micro$oft commercials? How did that help their failed label name and the companies bottom line?Well, the servers are calling me... Enjoy fellows!
gobbybobby said:
Well XP seems to have been around for ages. How long was vista in development. XP is still the OS of choice for many people because of its fast boot times and software and pc games are stil work with it. MS try to push us by releasing games that will only work on vista like HALO 2 PC. But you can get around that with a 3rd party patch or just download a torrented version.I am still on XP but may go to Vista simply because if you get a new copy thay upgrade you to 7 free. is that there silent way of admitting vista is crap while getting people to buy it and then upgrade to 7 and release figures that suggest loads of people bought it in the first week??!!
yukka said:
I read MichaelLS's comments and all I see is "wah wah wah wah wah..". boringVista has been adopted in the University I work in and when the hardware is capable of running it, its a nice environment. easy to support and maintain, fewer and fewer hardware issues. Would i recommend it to any business? Well, its the old question as XP was so good. But Vista is more secure because of UAC and the secure desktop.Most companies will wait for Windows 7 before they migrate but that makes sense. they might even wait as long as the first service pack. I dont see them jumping to apple since the hardware costs a bomb and i dont see the death of microsoft, how ever many words you write about it. 35 years in the industry. lol
MichaelLS said:
Still - GobbyBobby - why would you buy into the untested and unproven territory of Seven built on Vista? Why invite further trouble? Give them some real time to settle all this out. A year at least! Providing they have that time themselves. Things are looking pretty bleak in Redmond this morning. There will be a lot more people laid off at Micro$oft if this does not turn around, and real soon for them.Yes! Great sales dumping tactic by Micro$oft, 'lets give'm a good deal' in order to dump the broken product. Please don't install it. Just use it to upgrade. Save yourself the frustration and pain.Anyone else see the drug user analogy with Micro$oft. Get them hooked. Then charge them big money to feed their addictions? Give them the product for free - then reel them in when they need it the most. Sad!You Micro$oft Cultists can say what you will - Apple's package deals are actually a real cost savings in the office / enterprise today. Requires a lot less support too! Happy end users are a real blessing in the office environment today. Certainly better than trying to teach these poor people how to use Word or Excel today. What a nightmare. And at what enormous cost? You paid how much for those multiple seats for Office 2007? Uuuugh!Come on Micro$oft! Way past time to get it together! Less Greed! More hard work! Stop copying everyone else's product! Get out there and lead for a change!!!!
MichaelLS said:
Yukka???"When the hardware is capable?" And how much does that cost the University? XP works today! [ With a really good firewall... and virus scanner.. and Spyware tools... and even more money for software seats... etc. ] No more hardware expense required!!! Updated graphics cards cost big money Yukk Yukk! That's the whole point! Enterprise solutions that don't break the budget!"But Vista is more secure because of UAC and the secure desktop." You are kidding right? Oh please!"Most companies will wait for Windows 7 before they migrate but that makes sense." Yes, but bite me on the Enterprise hand once and I'll wait a very long time before investing in hardware and resources in you again. Enterprise really likes off the shelf - it works - it requires less support- solutions. And right now!Think about this people! Micro$oft really needs to re-think what they are doing - and yesterday! Is that not what Justin was really trying to point out!!!Sure wish someone would produce a nice affordable Linux Desktop solution. It's just not there!
eddie_42 said:
MichaelLS 'My system works just fine, why is everyone complaining'. I love that fanboy mentality, both apple and windows users. Fanboy stories aside, i have read countless articles about the woes of vista, from people who know what they are talking about. Michael for example here, uses 5 different platforms (linux, OSX, XP, Vista are what I've gathered). And he uses it for more then surfing facebook and updating his blog. For 80% plus of the general public, Vista is just fine. Getting a new Dell with it preloaded, taking it out of the box, plugging in the monitor, and playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure. The workplace is a whole different animal. Purchasing Vista may mean buy 5000 licenses or more. Look at Boeing, GE, Verizon etc...that's a lot of updates. And quite possible that you would also need to upgrade at least half the computer terminals. Now throw onto the top of that cost, that some glitch or driver instability makes talking between LA and Miami intermittent at best. Now you're loosing productivity, loosing revenue. If those problems persist for months, you got a giant lose on your hands. Vista simply hasn't proven to be worth the time and effort for major upgrades like these.
MichaelLS said:
eddie_42 [ GRIN ] Oh, please don't ask about VPN on Vista - please - oh, too painful to talk about. Way too much time and money lost! Oh the shame of it all. And for the record... Linux it just works! Little bitty byte out of the Apple - it just always works! Sun - it just works - even better. XP - well - sometimes... Sigh!You hit it on head eddie_42! Thanks!
yukka said:
[b]Originally posted by MichaelLS:[/b][quote]"When the hardware is capable?" And how much does that cost the University? XP works today! [ With a really good firewall... and virus scanner.. and Spyware tools... and even more money for software seats... etc. ] No more hardware expense required!!! Updated graphics cards cost big money Yukk Yukk! That's the whole point! Enterprise solutions that don't break the budget![/quote]Since when does Intel on board q35 and q45 graphics cost lots of money? Runs aero fine. Updated graphics cards - what would you need those for in the workplace? CAD cards are going to cost more with any operating system so thats just rubbish. Core 2 Duo, 2 gig of ram, sata drives, intel mobo with integrated graphics. If you are running anything slower in your enterprise you probably waste most of your support time replacing ide drives and cpu fans and explaining to users why their PCs make so much bloody noise.[quote]"But Vista is more secure because of UAC and the secure desktop." You are kidding right? Oh please![/quote]Its more secure than XP which doesnt have it. Whats your point? Combine it with the improved group policy options and its even better.[quote]"Most companies will wait for Windows 7 before they migrate but that makes sense." Yes, but bite me on the Enterprise hand once and I'll wait a very long time before investing in hardware and resources in you again. Enterprise really likes off the shelf - it works - it requires less support- solutions. And right now![/quote]Last time I checked Vista does work off the shelf. Its pointless trying to suggest it did at release but you arent suggesting I am trying to do that?[quote]Think about this people! Micro$oft really needs to re-think what they are doing - and yesterday! Is that not what Justin was really trying to point out!!!Sure wish someone would produce a nice affordable Linux Desktop solution. It's just not there![/quote]
MichaelLS said:
"Since when does Intel on board q35 and q45 graphics cost lots of money? Runs aero fine"Yes, that's true - when your established enterprise has those chipsets! Otherwise?Most have found that the attempt to run Vista on anything otherwise is terribly compromised. So... its lay down the cash.. or hang tight. What we now have is working. Why break it?High Demand Graphics? Why SLI when you can just Mac? [ Can you hear him scream? Watch him squirm! Ah the frustrated fan boys! ]Never replace fans - vacuum and clean regularly - oh yeah! A clean office cubical really helps! And get it off the floor big guy!Hard Drives? Regular maintenance - replacement before failure - Seagate? Sigh!UAC - sure if you don't mind having very frustrated End Users! Right? Questions?Questions? Questions? Oh, what to do? What to do? Better yet - Don't!!!Nah - XP PRO SP3 w/Zone Alarm Suite and a good Admin Staff - let them eat cake comrade! Piece of pie!
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