LimeWire granted two-week reprieve, might shut down

By on June 7, 2010, 4:17 PM
US District Judge Kimba Wood has granted LimeWire two weeks to respond to a motion filed Friday. The popular peer-to-peer file sharing software suffered a major legal defeat against the RIAA last week, after LimeWire founder Mark Gorton was found liable for copyright infringement, induced copyright infringement, and unfair competition.

Wood's ruling could follow any time after LimeWire responds to the filing, although the RIAA does have up to two weeks to counter LimeWire's submission. Legal analysts believe the case will result in the file swapping application's demise, and the RIAA has said a damage award could top a billion dollars. LimeWire, of course, begs to differ.

"We feel a permanent injunction is not the best course of action," said the company. "It could hold back the creation of new digital music technologies that LimeWire is in the process of developing, and does not benefit the industry as a whole. Following today's court appearance, we will be submitting our opposition brief."




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Guest said:

easy solution for LimeWire just make up a new name when they shut this one down. Shutting this down could eliminate like 80% of the virus problems that I fix on a daily basis.

TomSEA TomSEA, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

Exactly what Guest said. Even though I'm not a proponent of P2P file sharing sites due to the piracy involved, I know that all of my friends who have used LimeWire were nailed with a virus or trojan.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

I'm flatly amazed that with everyone of these cases/sites they have to re-litigate the wheel so to speak. I guess that's a good thing, relatively speaking, but I thought the precedents set with "Kazaa" would have made more of these cases a slam dunk for the plaintiffs..

tipstir tipstir, TS Ambassador, said:

Old habits are hard to kill. Remember BBS before what you have today seems prime target to get destroyed. Remove the unwanted element! Do whatever it takes to stop them! Wipe them clean off the face of the map (internet!) Take them down now!

Kevone07 said:

I am sticking with uTorrents and nothing else. My computer has not been infected for so long. I am so glad too

Guest said:

Use eMule Plus, just dont download programs and games, use it just for music and you will be fine

matrix86 matrix86 said:

"We feel a permanent injunction is not the best course of action," said the company. "It could hold back the creation of new digital music technologies that LimeWire is in the process of developing, and does not benefit the industry as a whole.

Uh-huh...sounds like they're trying to come up with excuses not to be shut down, lol.

"oh...we're...um...uh...we're coming up with technology that...uh...uh...that will change the way we view and listen to music? Yeah...that's it! We're going to revolutionize digital music technology! So...don't shut us down or else!"

Captain555 said:

The way Limewire is setup, there is no central server, so even if the company dissapear, the 300 millions or so client there won't be affected. It will keep going, and going, and going ....

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Has That Rabbit Been Checked for Rabies.........?

The way Limewire is setup, there is no central server, so even if the company dissapear, the 300 millions or so client there won't be affected. It will keep going, and going, and going ....
Groovy, so you're saying it's like the, "Energizer Copyright Violation Bunny" (!) or maybe (?)

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Rick Rick, TechSpot Staff, said:

and the RIAA has said a damage award could top a billion dollars. LimeWire, of course, begs to differ.
This is actually a case where whining about a billion dollars of lost revenue may actually be true....

Guest said:

Goodbye Limewire, hello Frostwire...nothing changes

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Old School Medicine

The popular peer-to-peer file sharing software suffered a major legal defeat against the RIAA last week, after LimeWire founder Mark Gorton was found liable for copyright infringement, induced copyright infringement, and unfair competition.

....[ ]...."We feel a permanent injunction is not the best course of action," said the company. "It could hold back the creation of new digital music technologies that LimeWire is in the process of developing, and does not benefit the industry as a whole. Following today's court appearance, we will be submitting our opposition brief."

Mr Gorton actually sounds like he may be getting his music delivered very soon in an old fashioned way, by suppository.

And by "new digital music technologies" does Mr Gorton perhaps mean, more invasive and harder to remove free malware...?

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

W*** is on the air....

Mr Gorton actually sounds like he may be getting his music delivered very soon in an old fashioned way, by suppository.

" Hey kids, its Mad Jack spinnin the platters for ya....after the break i got ' Here comes the bum", 'Get Back' and ' your own worst enema' for ya after this.....

slow pitch right over the plate...nice 'Ice' Cap :p

Guest said:

I guess my question is: Limewire has professed it was legal. Now, RIAA is sueing but for those new songs being released. What about alot of folks who download those old songs from way back when where it is virtually impossible to find them in stores or music stores? This was great for the old timers wanting those old songs from when they were kids. Why can't they find a way to just make it so people can download the oldies?

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

I guess my question is: Limewire has professed it was legal. Now, RIAA is sueing but for those new songs being released. What about alot of folks who download those old songs from way back when where it is virtually impossible to find them in stores or music stores? This was great for the old timers wanting those old songs from when they were kids. Why can't they find a way to just make it so people can download the oldies?
Here's the problem, while many oldies may or may not be protected by copyright law prevailing at their time of their release, the current terms, (from 1976 on) are extensive. Prior to 1976, the term of protection was potentially as much as 56 years anyway. Some simple math shows that some "oldies" may squeak in as being protected.

The Wiki page; [link]

What you suggest is idealistic, and perhaps plausible in very limited circumstances, but the facts are, once you shoot an organism (or institution) directly in the heart, it dies.

So, being a geezer myself, I sympathize with you, but the demographics don't favor your ideas one bit. It's the digital age children that are arousing all of the legal hire, and bringing all the heat down upon everyone. It could even be postulated, that the failing is with the parents, since most of them don't know right from wrong, or even something as basic as "mine from yours".

Guest said:

shutting down limewire is NOT going to stop people from downloading music off p2p programs.We are in a bad economy now and some people can't afford to buy music.SIMPLE AS THAT!!And the government suing everyone is NOT going to do ANYTHING!So don't even waste your time!

Broni Broni, Malware Annihilator, said:

Let's say, there is a country somewhere in the world, with a very bad regime in power.

We know from history...sooner, or later, there will be people, who will revolt. Peacefully, or not.

Will the regime say, it's legal to oppose it, to revolt?

Of course not. From the regime point of view, it'll be illegal.

Now...

Music industry was ripping people off for many, many years.

One simple example.

You love just that one song of some artist. All other songs of that particular artist are crappy, but that one song....I have to have it.

Was it possible in the past?

Of course not.

To get just that one song, you had to buy a whole CD for 20 bucks, or so.

Music industry kept saying, there is no physically possible to deliver just one song.

Really?

Napster showed up some years ago and all of sudden, like some magic, music industry says what?

Of course, we can deliver just one song. iTunes and all others came to life.

Why music industry was lying to us, ripping us off for years?

P2P is just a payback. It's a very sweet taste of a revenge :)

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Why I Remember 7 Inch, Analog Vinyl ROM Discs...!

You love just that one song of some artist. All other songs of that particular artist are crappy, but that one song....I have to have it.

This is what we used to call, "the medley of their hit"

Was it possible in the past?

Of course not.

To get just that one song, you had to buy a whole CD for 20 bucks, or so.

Music industry kept saying, there is no physically possible to deliver just one song.

Really?

Napster showed up some years ago and all of sudden, like some magic, music industry says what?

Of course, we can deliver just one song. iTunes and all others came to life.

Why music industry was lying to us, ripping us off for years?

P2P is just a payback. It's a very sweet taste of a revenge

I know you're on a roll, but you're tampering with the facts perhaps a bit too much.

First of all, there was a time you could buy just one song, and it was well before computers. We used to call them "45 RPM singles". And while it's true, they were actually 2 songs, the second song was sort of gratuitously thrown in, since nobody was about leaving the second side of the record blank.

Ok, I'm also at a loss to figure out where you claim to be paying, "20 bucks or so" for a CD.

Now this is just another take on the old, "I'm entitled to steal from the record companies, because they've stolen from me song and dance..

Why don't you come up with a number on how much you think you should be entitled to steal before you think you're even.

Really, I mean come up with a ratio, 10 to 1, 100 to 1, or how about a thousand to one. Will you stop when you hit that point? Or doesn't that point ever exist for you?

Oh, while I'm still thinking of it, you can always hold out for an artists "greatest hits collection". (This assumes they last long enough to have one)". And stay away from anything by Justin Beiber or James Blount.

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

Let's say, there is a country somewhere in the world, with a very bad regime in power.

Being a little dramatic...don't ya think?

but that one song....I have to have it.

NO you do not have to buy it.....oh I forgot, the Kamir Rouge is forcing you to buy these dreadful $20 CD's right?

Revenge:

1 : to avenge (as oneself) usually by retaliating in kind or degree

2 : to inflict injury in return for <revenge an insult>

so let me get this straight, You have the freedom to not purchase any good or service that you think is not worth the asking price. So how exactly did they inflict injury, or anything you would retaliate in kind for? I hope that when you are a big boy and grow up, someone steals it is whatever you create or produce, you at least stay intellectually consistent when extract their "very sweet taste of a revenge"

Have a nice day....and if your not, Steal one.

Really, I mean come up with a ratio, 10 to 1, 100 to 1, or how about a thousand to one. Will you stop when you hit that point? Or doesn't that point ever exist for you?

***** Oh and Cap, the answer is infinity to none

Guest said:

How 'bout at least shutting down the Kiddie Porn Limewire's well-known for? I've got a relative sitting in prison because of these clowns!

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

How 'bout at least shutting down the Kiddie Porn Limewire's well-known for? I've got a relative sitting in prison because of these clowns!

With that being said, this falls under the old, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink", axiom....!

As I understand it, you still have to frequent child porn websites, view these sites repeatedly, then download the material to your computer to arouse the ire of the authorities.

"Limewire made me do it", is not accepted as an affirmative defense under any US statute or code, at least as far as I know.

Broni Broni, Malware Annihilator, said:

There is no reason for lynching me.

I only voiced my personal opinion.

You're very entitled to not liking it :)

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

There is no reason for lynching me.

I only voiced my personal opinion.

You're very entitled to not liking it

True enough, but know would you know we didn't like it if we didn't tell you....?

Broni Broni, Malware Annihilator, said:

would you know we didn't like it if we didn't tell you

True....LOL

Guest said:

I agree that this whole thing should just be left alone. A lot of the times Limewire allows you to download music you can't get anywhere else, that's not even on itunes, so why can't they just let it be? This whole "illegal music download" stuff is never gonna end, there's plenty of other sites people can go to and there's new ones being continuously added so why bother.

The music business is still making money, I still buy cd's.

They should just let it go! To me, they've still lost the lawsuit because of people still downloading from other places.

Guest said:

actually i dont use limewire or any other P2P softwares... what i use are private torrent sites! none of the torrents are infected with viruses cuz there is a 24/7 modertaion system... none of the files will be uploaded to the site untill its checked for viruses... and all the torrents are 100% working and clean thats why i choose private torrent sites.

Thanks

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Guest said:

The government will never win. I don't see why they even try! There's always a loophole, to everything. I believe we all withhold the capabilities to reveal these loopholes and spread the word. Lime-wire's down, use frost-wire, that goes down, use torrents, that goes down, we'll obviously find something else.

Guest said:

limewire was the best creation ever. i cant believe they finaly after all the years are trying to shut it down

Guest said:

Well I'd love to agree with CaptainCranky but let's face it they have been ripping us off for decades it doesn't even take 15 dollars to make cd's this is what I've found that it takes between art and supplies that it cost the company's around $2 to $3 per disc made, I also know some of the money is to pay the artist but really they need to jump to 15 to 20 dollars for just 9 to 11 songs on average so that's like paying two dollars per song in a rough estimate not that I'm saying it's right to steal but for a good portion of people it's ridiculous to pay that much for one disc now "if the company producing the music figured this out" people wouldn't want to use p2p site's and just to tell you everything I " " was because the other guy is right the company's have become money hungry and way to greedy anymore and that's the main reason they sell about 10 times the cost to make the CD

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