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IsoHunt is essentially arguing that if it is going to be targeted by movie studios, so should Google. Last month, Google got involved took interest in the ongoing court case between IsoHunt and the MPAA, fearing that the standing injunction could damage it. Although the search giant did not dispute IsoHunt's liability, the company is clearly concerned. Here's the crux of IsoHunt's argument:
Neither Google nor Plaintiffs mention the 95% overlap between torrents available through Defendants’ systems and torrents available through Google and/or Yahoo!. (AOB 29-30.) Neither Google nor Plaintiffs mention the 96% of Torrentbox tracker users who get torrents from places other than the Torrentbox torrent site, such as from Google or Yahoo! (AOB 11.) Defendants might argue to the jury that it is unfair to hold Defendants liable if Google, unbothered by Plaintiffs, provides torrents to ten or twenty times the number of users that visit Defendants. Defendants might argue that Defendants are being scapegoated. Defendants might argue that holding Defendants liable while ignoring Google would not curtail infringement. Defendants might argue that Plaintiffs have litigation purposes other than curtailing infringement.
Through the appeal, IsoHunt hopes to reverse the permanent injunction which orders it to filter its search results, and obtain a jury trial instead of a summary judgment. In its reply brief, IsoHunt argues that the majority of the files that can be found through its search engine are also available via Google.
While Google is not a torrent search engine, it does index and cache hundreds of millions of pages with directs links to torrent files. There's even a filetype command that allows users to search only for torrent files (by specifying the .torrent extension).
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IsoHunt does provide a quick easy way to report infringing material. Google does have a specific way to search only for torrents, which works exactly in the same way as their feature for searching for *.jpg or *.txt files. Go search for: shrek filetype:torrent
So you would be wrong on both counts, which is shocking since you admitted you didn't know to begin with. Might try learning about something before admitting you don't know then being wrong.
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MrAnderson said:
This is a slippery slope argument and it is bull.
Google (Yahoo, Bing being not mentioned) is an Internet search engine; IsoHunt positions itself (in name) for specific task.
You might be able to find links to illegal torrents on Google, but Google does not categorically create a place for this activity to thrive. This is what separates Internet search engines from IsoHunt. When you filter for something illegal you kind of have lost your neutrality.
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So what is Googles filetype command .torrent then?
adding that file type makes it a search enging for just torrents.
That said, a torrent file is not illegal. Neither can a search engine that specificly target torrent files be it either. There for ... IsoHunt does nothing wrong. ...neither does google.
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unfortunately the MPAA RIAA DMCA or any other anti-piracy group have basicly unlimited amounts of money... on the other hand most pirates do not, if i could afford to spend between 60 or 80$ after all is said and done to take the wife and kids to see the new movie at the theater i would... there screens are much bigger :P as long as there is poverty there will be piracy... anti-piracy groups have wasted more on prosecuting individuals than they could ever make back. they want it to stop and we all know it will never happen as long as computers have been around so has piracy.... the first thing i did on a computer is install a pirated version of MS-Dos 3.2 ... when i was a kid we used to hook 2 VCRs together and copy video tapes... friends and i would copy audio tapes even record off the radio.... if you can write to it someone will use it to copy something as long as there is poverty there will be piracy
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JudaZ said:MrAnderson said:
This is a slippery slope argument and it is bull.
Google (Yahoo, Bing being not mentioned) is an Internet search engine; IsoHunt positions itself (in name) for specific task.
You might be able to find links to illegal torrents on Google, but Google does not categorically create a place for this activity to thrive. This is what separates Internet search engines from IsoHunt. When you filter for something illegal you kind of have lost your neutrality.
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So what is Googles filetype command .torrent then?
adding that file type makes it a search enging for just torrents.
That said, a torrent file is not illegal. Neither can a search engine that specificly target torrent files be it either. There for ... IsoHunt does nothing wrong. ...neither does google.
Agreed Judaz. The MPAA is focusing on the wrong target here. The search engines themselves shouldn't be to blame, since they don't host any files. The MPAA should be going after the hosts of the files instead. It's just easier though, I suppose, to go after the guys that created the map to those files.
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whenever I'm looking for something not legal, the first place I go is GOOGLE.
looking for a crack? google
a serial number? google
pirated software? google
videogames? google
movies? google
music? google
isohunt guilty for giving you a link to what you're looking for? well, what about search engines???
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bonniesmith said:
vipor231 said:yep google is the place to find torrents...thats how people find what there looking for,not the actual website
I find pretty much everything on Google, and torrents are also easy to find.
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In this day and age, I laugh at any company, corporation, organization, or even government that trys to go up against Google.
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