Apple claims Samsung violates Siri patents with Google Now

By on May 23, 2013, 2:30 PM
google, apple, samsung, siri, patent dispute, google now

Apple has added another complaint to its ongoing patent infringement lawsuit with Samsung, claiming that Google Now violates Siri patents. Florian Mueller of Foss Patents reports that in an amendment to its current court case, Apple says that Samsung infringed upon patents 8,086,604 and 6,846,959, both entitled “Universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system.”

In practice, this “universal interface” is Siri, and by using Google’s Google Now technology in its devices, Apple claims Samsung has violated these patents. Apple has previously filed similar complaints about the use of the Android Quick Search Box, but Samsung recently replaced this feature with Google Now, prompting the amendment and shifted focus.

It’s interesting to see Apple targeting Samsung for violation of Siri patents instead of going after the source of Google Now, Google. This may just be a preamble to a larger court battle against Google, as a victory in this case against Samsung could set a precedent for future suits involving the technologies in question. In the meantime, the complaints strengthen Apple's case against Samsung while they push for an injunction against some of their devices in the U.S.

In addition to ‘604 and ‘959, Apple amended the complaint to include three other Apple-owned patents:

  • U.S. Patent No. 5,666,502: "Graphical user interface using historical lists with field classes"
  • U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647: "System and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data"
  • U.S. Patent No. 7,761,414: "Asynchronous data synchronization amongst devices"



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1 person liked this | Blkfx1 Blkfx1 said:

This is not surprising considering it's Apple.

1 person liked this | micahb micahb said:

Here we go again!!

Guest said:

Well if Samsung would stop copying Apple would stop suing...lol!!

1 person liked this | JC713 JC713 said:

Samsung is definitely at a disadvantage since it is a Korean company battling an American company in American courts. Just because Google Now is better, it doesnt mean you have to sue.

killeriii said:

How can the USPO keep granting these obviously vague patents?

Guest said:

Here we go again....

3 people like this | Kezhen Gao said:

If you have to use words like 'universal' in your patent, it's probably way too vague.

1 person liked this | Skidmarksdeluxe Skidmarksdeluxe said:

Seem as though Apple has found out that the consumer has finally realized their products are a ripoff and not so keen to buy them anymore so they do the next best thing to bolster their bottom line, suing the pants off their rivals. They make me sick.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

The U.S. patent system is a joke...

1 person liked this | ReederOnTheRun ReederOnTheRun said:

If Apple devoted half as many resources to R&D as they do to patents and lawyers, they'd probably still have the better devices.

wastedkill said:

Apple are like the patent system, abusive pathetic and should be shot down immediately its halting technology everyone is scared of creating something new and innovative because we have pathetic companies like apple with stupid patents.

If this goes on I will patent life and death so I can sue everyone in the world I mean heck if apple has these kind of patents who's to say me patenting life and death wont be accepted if they accepted apples patents they have no choice but to patent mine.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

No, they copied it after Speaktoit, which has been out as long as Siri. Or maybe Dragon? Siri was nothing new when Apple started pushing it. It was already old technology. Siri was a free app for two years before Apple put it in the 4S.

Apple is becoming more and more desperate as they lose control and market-share. This will go no where slow. It should go no where fast, but they will drag it out way longer then it needs to be.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

"Universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system."

How is the word "Universal" even in a patent description. That's like saying I have a patent for "Universal mechanisms for moving humans in an urban ecosystem" then sue the car companies.

1 person liked this | jlatimer11 jlatimer11 said:

Apple: Innovation through litigation.

Guest said:

Samsung: Innovation through duplication

JC713 JC713 said:

Samsung: Innovation through duplication

Competition is needed in the world buddy.

Joe Marmoe Joe Marmoe said:

Using your eyes isn't an ?Universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system.??? Everybody watch (!!!) out....

Guest said:

Hum... now I understand the general hate from some countries towards the US.. I feel it towards apple... and if I feel it... thats a really really bad sign...

Joe Marmoe Joe Marmoe said:

Apple is a company that sells bad products with traces of new technology... they don't products, they sell dreams... for a lot of people nightmares... Apples's moto: how to turn stupid rich people taking their money and laughingn with it...

Siddarth Siddarth said:

Apple, SIRIously, what's your problem? Is it just money you are behind coz I do not see anything else in iPhones since its release, just the same casing with the Same "slide to unlock" and unchangeable themes.

Every technology of yours including your infamous "Retina Display" have been overtaken, by phones that cost 1/4th of iPhones.

Its time to grow up Apple, start developing and stop complaining.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Apple: Innovation through litigation.
Hey, "it just works". (And I mean that in the most sarcastic way possible)?

dennis777 dennis777 said:

US patent system is freaking broken. How can you patent a Search functionality?

1 person liked this | captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Apple should have cloned Steve Jobs while it still had the chance!

MannerMauler said:

Well, Did anyone think that they are doing this after jobs died

Guest said:

Um.... doesn't GOOGLE make Google now..? What makes it possible for apple to sue Samsung?? Google now is kinda baked into Android, Samsung didn't put it there....

wiyosaya said:

Um.... doesn't GOOGLE make Google now..? What makes it possible for apple to sue Samsung?? Google now is kinda baked into Android, Samsung didn't put it there....

Because a patent is a right to sue to stop others from using the invention. I can see their point in that Samsung is using the technology, therefore, Samsung is infringing on crApple's patent.

However, I personally think this is one more sign of the beginnings of the end of crApple. Since they can no longer steal ideas from others, they have to resort to suing for unauthorized use of what they have left.

ReederOnTheRun ReederOnTheRun said:

Um.... doesn't GOOGLE make Google now..? What makes it possible for apple to sue Samsung?? Google now is kinda baked into Android, Samsung didn't put it there....

Maybe they're just going after Samsung because it will be easier to get a win against a foreign company. Then, once they establish Google Now violates their patents by beating Samsung, they can go after Google easier too.

Guest said:

Apple and Blackberry alike, stop with the b*tching and develop as fast as you patent/complain about every-little-thing. Then again there's also USA going after ThePirateBay and Kim DotCom. Oh how you praise your litigation system waaay out of your jurisdictions.

Guest said:

Yeah.. well.. this is apple we are talking about.. Here we thought Walmart was bad... in comes apple.. lol

good news though, I've turned 2 friends away from iphone in support of the galaxy s3 or 4 (one just bought the s3 and the other the s4)

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Apple and Blackberry alike, stop with the b*tching and develop as fast as you patent/complain about every-little-thing. Then again there's also USA going after ThePirateBay and Kim DotCom. Oh how you praise your litigation system waaay out of your jurisdictions.
You're either going to embrace "freedom, justice, and the American way", or we're going to drone strike your sorry a**es until you do.

(That of course was satire, should there have been any ambiguity).

bexwhitt said:

There is buckets of prior art on voice search, Star Trek springs to mind. Anyway android had voice control before apple bought Siri

JC713 JC713 said:

Apple should have cloned Steve Jobs while it still had the chance!

Lol +1.

mailpup mailpup said:

Apple should have cloned Steve Jobs while it still had the chance!
For all we know they are growing one now.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

For all we know they are growing one now.
Hopefully they're using DNA from when he was alive. The recombinant type, especially when laced with frog DNA, is liable to produce a hermaphroditic super version of the Steve-ster, "able to switch sexes in a single bound".

He will likely be fondly known to his (or her?), inner circle as, "Frankensteve", or possibly, "Jurassic Jobs"......:eek:

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

^^ That's outright disgusting and disrespectful! ^^.

I'd like to pretend I have the common decency to be ashamed of myself for that, but I'm not anywhere close to that level of civility! In fact, I'm pretty damned proud of it.

Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

Well if Samsung would stop copying Apple would stop suing...lol!!

Um... "Google Now"

Guest said:

Yeah so true. I'm a jazz trumpet player, and in the past year I've been working on my soloing a lot. The only way to get really good at soloing is to listen to the best players in the world, and copy their licks. If music were like the tech world, I'd probably get my butt sued big time for all the copying I've done. But the cool thing about music is that even though people copy each other all the time, they take what they copied, and then make it their own in some unique way. It's just so stupid how in the tech world, now people can't even improve on an older patented idea without getting sued. It has to be something completely new. It's like somebody invents an orange. Back then you could invent an orange, but in a different colour and be fine, but now it has to be something completely different, like a banana or pear. Anything with any resemblance to an orange = sued. Now while people are still able to improve on ideas and sell, I have a feeling that's where everything is heading. A business has to reinvent the wheel everytime so they won't get sued for selling it if another business has something similar.

TheGCU said:

Um.... doesn't GOOGLE make Google now..? What makes it possible for apple to sue Samsung?? Google now is kinda baked into Android, Samsung didn't put it there....

I agree. If Apple has a problem with Google Now, they should take it up with Google. Samsung just includes the app in their devices. They didn't create it, Google did. This is just more evidence that Apple has a hard-on for taking down Samsung. Apple's really starting to look like a whiny kid.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

I kinda wish everybody would stop supplying Apple with parts and labor. Let them build their own fabs, and hire their own underage former Nike sneaker assemblers. At least they might go away and play quietly and be out of everyone's hair for a bit.

That way, when employees start committing suicide jumping out of dormitory windows, it will shine a light on them, instead of them saying, "that darn Foxconn isn't treating their employees well at all"!

And then Foxconn should patent their suicide nets right away, in case it turns out that Apple needs to use them.

Adhmuz Adhmuz, TechSpot Paladin, said:

"Universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system." Is this not exactly what Windows Explorer and Search is and has been for say, 25 years? How do they have a patent for something so freaking vague, again Apple with their absurd patents they must be bribing for. It's really too bad the people who make up the masses who buy Apple products unknowingly of these BS lawsuits, all the teenage Girls and people desperate to fit in with those teenage girls. But this will change, Apple has been neglecting to innovate their products and instead limit the competitions ability to innovate through the USPO. But the US doesn't have jurisdiction everywhere on earth and hopefully Samsung will realize that sooner than later and just pull their product off US shelves so the rest of the world can continue to actually ENJOY innovative products. The US can keep their Cr'Apple.

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