Julio 05-31-2005, 03:16 AM The Best Buy repairman had come several times to fix the woman's television. But still on Friday he could not get it to work. So, officials say, the woman pulled out a .38-caliber handgun loaded with hollow-point rounds and told him: "You're not leaving until the TV is fixed."
Marlene Anne Bagnall, 44, of 1523 Davenport Drive was later arrested on charges of aggravated assault and false imprisonment.
Bagnall's husband told a sheriff's deputy she was diagnosed with a mental disorder for which she takes medication. She left the county jail early Saturday on $10,000 bail.
More here:
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/05/29/Pasco/Broken_TV_leads_to_ch.shtml
zephead 06-02-2005, 10:59 PM what a b****! i had a guy once freak out at me when i told him how much it would cost to get his office up to windows 2000, the guy punched a terrific hole in his drywall and said just about every swear in the english language.
howard_hopkinso 06-03-2005, 12:19 AM What is someone with a supposed mental illness, doing having access to a gun in the first place?
Regards Howard :unch:
Bobcat1132 06-03-2005, 12:35 AM it was probably just an excuse to get her out of jail and save her but for the trial it doesnt take much to get diagnosed with much of anything anymore and if she has a good enough laywer she can probably get out of it almost scott free.
poertner_1274 06-03-2005, 10:01 AM That's a scary situation nonetheless. The people in the world absolutely amaze me sometimes.
zephead 06-04-2005, 01:17 AM What is someone with a supposed mental illness, doing having access to a gun in the first place?in this country? we've got plenty of gun nuts alright...in rural america you can find guys hunting deer with m16's (a gas-operated military grade assault rifle)
Bobcat1132 06-04-2005, 01:26 AM what idiots shooting deer with m16's bet theres not much left of the deer afterwords because of the way the bullet is designed
Finchy 06-06-2005, 03:28 PM At least their not hunting them with M60's. And I know why Americans have such high gun crime rates (sorry if I'm offending anyone) compared to Canadians, who have just as many guns. The news. All Americans are under the thumb of news corporations who bombard them with bad and depresing news, in Canada, bad news isn't reported on such a big scale if its not important, and nice things are reported. How do I know this? Watch Michael Moore's film 'Bowling for Columbine,' it's actually quite good.
zephead 06-06-2005, 07:07 PM the gun nuts scream about the 2nd amendment to the US constitutionA well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringedi doubt they read the first half of the sentence...which was written in 1791 when keeping a gun was common for survival in most parts of the country.
howard_hopkinso 06-06-2005, 07:27 PM in this country? we've got plenty of gun nuts alright...in rural america you can find guys hunting deer with m16's (a gas-operated military grade assault rifle)
Possibly why the USA has so many gun related crimes.
Regards Howard http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/e/bigun.gif
IronDuke 06-06-2005, 07:27 PM What is someone with a supposed mental illness, doing having access to a gun in the first place?
Regards Howard :unch:
They do things different over there. :)
IronDuke 06-06-2005, 07:31 PM Gee! - for a moment there I had the vision of someone hunting deer with a F16. :confused:
Finchy 06-07-2005, 12:15 PM What, the fighter jet?
that would be so cool, with heat seeker, nose cam and all. See the shocked expresion on a deers face when it realises that 'bee' is actually a huge missile. The disadvantage is thhere's be nothing left to take home as a trophy, which sort of makes the whole act worthless!
IronDuke 06-07-2005, 12:20 PM Anything you did manage to salvage would be ready cooked.
Bipolar_Gargoyl 06-07-2005, 12:29 PM I think if EVERYONE were able to carry a gun then the crime rate would go down. Who's going to mug someone or break into someone's house knowing they have a gun too!!
Just my 2 cents.
Bipolar
IronDuke 06-07-2005, 12:39 PM A lot of people I fear is the answer. There are quite a few crazies in this world.
davidsurv 06-07-2005, 12:57 PM The old addage "guns don't kill people - people kill people" begs to be stated, however, access to guns is a major problem in american society these days & by simply outlawing guns, the only people that would have them were the ones who don't care about the law anyways, which would perpetuate the law abiding citizens to have to illegally obtain a gun for protections sake. Luckily the lady in question wasn't a fanatic "American Idol" fan on elimination night.....lol. - No offense meant, just trying to bring humor into a touchy subject.
Bipolar_Gargoyl 06-07-2005, 01:07 PM Yep, if you outlaw guns, only the criminals and people that buy them illegally will have them. Everyone else just has to fend for themselves. Which is not a happy thought for me!
Bipolar
zephead 06-07-2005, 05:27 PM ahh, people living in rural america need guns. i doubt farmers need m16's to grow corn, but firearms are a staple item of non-urban life here. americans don't really need guns to 'protect' themselves or thier property (especially in urban areas).
davidsurv 06-07-2005, 10:04 PM Religion, Politics & Gun Control - three of the most volatile subjects to "stir" the pot on both the left & the right. These threads have the propensity to create a perpetual post with both sides offering strong feedback to support one's cause. My idea of a peaceful america would be to feel safe walking down the street, for my children to be able to walk safely down the street, for me to never have to lock my home or my vehicle, that however, is not possible. On the other hand, it is said that a locked door only keeps an honest man out.
howard_hopkinso 06-08-2005, 04:26 AM Yep, if you outlaw guns, only the criminals and people that buy them illegally will have them. Everyone else just has to fend for themselves. Which is not a happy thought for me!
Bipolar
Well, we have that exact situation here in the UK. Guns are banned here, and although there is a criminal element, who do have guns, the gun crime rate here involving guns, is very low compared to the USA.
Surely this can`t be just a coincidence. In 2002/2003 the official figure for people killed in the uk with guns is around 70 this in a population of around 60 million.
The USA population for the same years is approximately 290 million, with over 8000 people killed with guns.
This information is freely available, simply by typing either, "USA gun statistics" or, "Uk gun statistics" into a google search.
Regards Howard
Michelle2 06-08-2005, 04:53 AM I used to be an OSM engineer for a small company in England.
I went onsite with the wrong parts, "clerical error", and the client wouldnt let me offsite until I fixed their PC. They actually locked me in!
The company got someone to drive to the area over 50 miles away,with the correct parts and I fixed the PC, and left as soon as I could.
While in there my colleague sat in his car outside, just in case!
zephead 06-08-2005, 10:46 PM yeah, but the united states is still safer than most of the rest of the world.The USA population for the same years is approximately 290 million, with over 8000 people killed with guns.we've got more than 20,000 bodybags to fill each year from drunk driving, thus making it the biggest source of unnatural death. gun control will always come after the nation's concerns about drunk driving.I think if EVERYONE were able to carry a gun then the crime rate would go down.violence would skyrocket.
in illinois, it's technically illegal to have any operational firearm in public (unless you're carrying a badge). threatening or using a gun against another person is a felony in this country and you will go to jail, and consequently the jails would fill up in a hurry. i think that our gun control systems need minimal change, as they are pretty mindful of enforceability concerns.
davidsurv 06-09-2005, 09:42 AM In 1996, The University of Chicago conducted a study to examine how those states (that made it legal for mentally competent people to carry a concealed weapon), crime rates were affected. The results showed a decrease in violent crimes, however, property crimes increased.
http://hematite.com/dragon/usatodayccw.html
Another interesting article regarding the medias poor coverage of defensive gun usage.
http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/siteinfo/newsround/gunlie.html
zephead 06-09-2005, 04:11 PM yes, mentally competent people who can be trusted to handle situations appropriately. but not everyone's going to use a gun wisely (or for self-defense).
davidsurv 06-09-2005, 06:23 PM This is the post that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friends, This is the...........
kol_indian 06-10-2005, 03:32 PM It is really amazing to see this, the more so since gun related crime is so rare in my part of the world, yes we do have criminal elements,but they are more towards the parts that have a lot of terorist action goes on, but in the rest of the parts crimes involving knife(arroval asit is called here) is as much if not double that of other countries.
so it is not the instrument that causes havoc but people do it.
zephead 06-10-2005, 05:07 PM so it is not the instrument that causes havoc but people do it.agreed. i know people who own (numerous) firearms and they wouldn't even shoot someone who broke into thier home. but then there's people who will take a tire-iron and beat someone into a coma for $2 from the victim's wallet.
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