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Saibokas
09-15-2007, 11:13 PM
Hello, im considering buying a new video card, but my pc has integrated video card. Some say "if it's in your motherboard you're stuck with it", well would the new video card work if i would buy it or not.

Saibokas
09-15-2007, 11:42 PM
Ok Thank You,

1. Motherboard - MSI, Albacore 1.0
2. Graphic interface - blank
3. Memory - DDR, Single 1024Mbytes
4. CPU - ADM Athlon 64 3400+
5. Stays at 900MHz goes u to 2200MHz
6.- Can't open it now g2g =)
7.- Can't open it now g2g =)

Chipset ATI Xpress 200(RS480) (worst video card i ever seen =))
I would want a video card in a range of 100$ something like:nVIDIA 7600GT 256MB 7600 GT DDR3 PCI-E Video Card

Thanx,
Darius

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09-15-2007, 11:42 PM
  

Sorrow
09-16-2007, 12:41 AM
I never heard of that motherboard before lol =O

Jase123
09-16-2007, 08:14 AM
Im guessing this is a pre-built system? because most pre-built systems don'thave a very well known motherboard

regards Jase

sghiznaneck
09-16-2007, 10:14 AM
What's the brand, make and model of the computer . That way, we can at least try to look up the specs on the manufacturer's website and try to narrow down exactly what options you have. If the board doesn't support AGP or PCI-e, then the only other option you would have is to purchase a straight PCI graphics card, providing the board has an open slot available.

Jase123
09-16-2007, 10:20 AM
yes... Report back with Brand,make,and model of computer like Sghiznaneck said

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 10:25 AM
My pc is:
Hewlett-Packard Company
HP Pavilion
ADM Athlom(tm) 64 Processor
3400+
2.19GHz, 960 MB of RAM

Btw my pc has a place for video card(if you meant that).

Maybe you want my dxdiag?

http://files.filefront.com/DxDiagtxt/;8568675;/fileinfo.html

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09-16-2007, 10:25 AM
  

zelos369
09-16-2007, 10:33 AM
I would go to circutcity and tell them the type of computer you have and then they might be able to find a better and compatible video card for you =)

Jase123
09-16-2007, 10:37 AM
Your motherboard is not well known, so i can't find it.

how old is your computer?

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 10:48 AM
About 2 years old, but not older. Well i had 1 pc it's like 6 years old i bought one video card, i think it was 128Mb GeForce Fx 5500 and it worked fine, I didn't even ask any1 if that would work, that guy said any card would work...

Jase123
09-16-2007, 10:52 AM
i would guess that your laptop takes pci-e but thats a guess.. you have a very unknown mobo

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 10:54 AM
It's not a laptop...

Jase123
09-16-2007, 10:56 AM
oh right.... Well i am certain its a pci-e slot..

Whats your motherboards model number?

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 10:58 AM
Idk what's that but what i think, is it the slot to insert video card?

Idk, CHECK dxdiag plz.

sghiznaneck
09-16-2007, 11:03 AM
The model number can be found in either of two places:

Somewhere on the front of the case is the model number embossed right into the case.

On the back (or the bottom, depending on the model and plant it was manufactured at) is a label with the model number, tag number and so forth.

This will give us a clue that can tell us which model to look up. The motherboard may not be listed or it may be an HP in-house board, but it should give us the info on pci-e, agp or pci slots available.

Jase123
09-16-2007, 11:04 AM
a pci-e slot is the slot where your graphics card goes..

Right, open your case and in or near the centre of the mobo it should have a few numbers which is a model number, or if you have your motherboard disk look at that then give me the full name.. like m9 is an asus p5vd2-Mx Se

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 11:37 AM
nope there is nothing on the motherboard...exept Ms-7093 VER:120

Jase123
09-16-2007, 11:43 AM
yes thats the model ill have a look now for the manual

are any of these your motherboard:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B3934-MSI-MS-7093-Skt-939-Ver-1-0-HP-Motherboard_W0QQitemZ120157628090QQihZ002QQcategoryZ99245QQrdZ1QQssPageName ZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B3481-MSI-MS-7093-Skt-939-HP-P-N-5188-2475_W0QQitemZ120162518446QQihZ002QQcategoryZ99245QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ cmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MICROSTAR-MS-7093-VER-1-0-SOCKET-939-MOTHERBOARD_W0QQitemZ200150976530QQihZ010QQcategoryZ99245QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Post back and let me know

I think that your motherboard is PCI Express x16 .. Im pretty sure now.

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 11:48 AM
the last one is the closest...

Jase123
09-16-2007, 11:57 AM
ok. well im 90% sure your graphics card supports pci-e.

Look on your motherboard and see if you can see this slot the yellow one on the picture below

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Articles/Sources/EQS_M56K9-MLF/Images/4review/slots.jpg

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 11:59 AM
you didn't read the half i said, i said there is the slot for video card!!!

Jase123
09-16-2007, 12:02 PM
what slot the one above..

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 12:03 PM
yes the top slot, other slots are like for internet card, etc. the top one is fro video card.

Jase123
09-16-2007, 12:06 PM
well if you have that slot above you can get a good graphics card that supports pci-e..

I could search for a card for you, but i need to know what you prefer ati or nividia?

And don't forget there is different graphic card slots (e.g. Pci,Pci-e, and agp (accelerated graphics port)

Regards Jase

Sorrow
09-16-2007, 12:07 PM
Mind telling me your budget too? =D

howard_hopkinso
09-16-2007, 12:10 PM
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=RS480M2-IL&class=mb

See the above link to your mobo.

It does have a pci-e x16 slot.

Regards Howard :)

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 12:10 PM
well i prefer Nvidia because i think it's better and i want it in a range of 100$

Jase123
09-16-2007, 12:15 PM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3244223&Sku=E145-8506&SRCCODE=YAHOODF&CMP=SPC-YAHOO

theres on in your price range.

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 12:21 PM
But is that card good for games?

Jase123
09-16-2007, 12:23 PM
yes.. wouldnt be the best but for $90 you can't go wrong.

Here are some facts:

featuring the world's first DirectX® 10 GPU and a powerful unified architecture that delivers an incredibly true-to-life gaming experience. Power through games at record speeds and charge through game maps with vividly realistic, sun-up to sun-down HDR lighting effects while steering clear of mind-blowing physics effects such as explosions, fire, and smoke. Crank up 16x full-screen anti-aliasing without missing a beat - no jaggies, no worries. And relax watching your favorite movies with NVIDIA PureVideo™ technology.

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 12:28 PM
would 256Mb be better? i heard that express are the one of the worst cards...

Sorrow
09-16-2007, 12:42 PM
Express are the advanced cards o.O All the high end cards you see today are express

Jase123
09-16-2007, 12:42 PM
So you want to know about PCI Express? PCI Express is a recent feature addition to many new motherboards. PCI Express support can have a big impact on your hardware choices both now and in the future. This article will explain the topic in plain english withoutboring you with useless information.

Common Buses and their Max Bandwidth
PCI 132 MB/s
AGP 8X 2,100 MB/s
PCI Express 1x 250 [500]* MB/s
PCI Express 2x 500 [1000]* MB/s
PCI Express 4x 1000 [2000]* MB/s
PCI Express 8x 2000 [4000]* MB/s
PCI Express 16x 4000 [8000]* MB/s
PCI Express 32x 8000 [16000]* MB/s
IDE (ATA100) 100 MB/s
IDE (ATA133) 133 MB/s
SATA 150 MB/s
Gigabit Ethernet 125 MB/s
IEEE1394B [Firewire] 100 MB/s

Yes and No. A 16x PCI Express connection is at least 190% Faster than AGP 8x but this is the connection between the system and the video card. You use the connection the most when your video card is low on memory or when the game you are using uses a Direct X or Open GL feature that isn't supported in hardware.

Conclusion
PCI Express is an exciting advance in the area of computers. Although AGP is now starting to die rapidly, standard PCI is taking/will take longer to die off. Expect to see at least 1 or 2 standard PCI slots along side PCI-E in all motherboards for at least the next 2 years. By that time there will be PCI-E replacements for all common devices such as modems, network cards, raid cards, i/o and more.

Very sooon it will be all pci-e

pci-e is better in my opinion

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 12:49 PM
Like i understand that express card should be great but then game requires 32Mb card and the game lags, like games san andreas, scarface, lineage 2, it lags on this card...

Sorrow
09-16-2007, 12:53 PM
32mb? 32 MB for VRAM is...really small isn't it?

Jase123
09-16-2007, 12:53 PM
well if you wanted to play games with maxed settings and that you would have to be willing to pay more.

Personally i think that card would be ok for you

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 12:55 PM
no on the lowest settings it lags too, my friend has 64 MB GeForce which he doesn't lag at all.. well what i believe is that express cards are piece of s*** and it doesn't cost much, why they are so cheap?

Sorrow
09-16-2007, 12:58 PM
64 MB of VRAM is also realllllly low. My moms PCI card Radeon 9200 has 126 (I tihnk that was the correct number) Of VRAM, and thats bad =O

Jase123
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
an ati radeon x1950 pro 256mb is a very good graphics card

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 01:03 PM
how much is it?

Jase123
09-16-2007, 01:06 PM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-113-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=

Thats it, but you would have to find it on an american site.

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
anything little cheaper cuz it's like 150$ on ebay.

Jase123
09-16-2007, 01:12 PM
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-064-OK

that one is abit cheaper..

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 01:12 PM
i see, nVIDIA 7600GT 256MB 7600 GT DDR3 PCI-E Video Card, would this be good and would it work?

Sorrow
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
The 7600s are really good cards for the money. I would probally say its a good price for preformance card.

Jase123
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
yes that would be a good one, but not brilliant

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 01:19 PM
you know anything little better than this?

Jase123
09-16-2007, 01:23 PM
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203276941&SearchEngine=ya&SearchTerm=203276941&Type=PI&Category=Comp&dcaid=17194

theres a good one..

Regards Jase

Saibokas
09-16-2007, 01:28 PM
nVIDIA 7600GT 256MB 7600 GT DDR3 PCI-E Video Card is this better than that you mentioned before?

Jase123
09-16-2007, 01:35 PM
id probably go for the nividia one

Regards Jase

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