Vista vs. Windows XP

I think we need to discuss vista what would you choose for a new PC?

XP Home (Full packaged version) :D
Registered for full Tech support from MSoft.
Not preinstalled or OEM.:p
Give MS time to get the Vista BUGS out.:haha:

This is the wrong Forum.
It's an OS Poll,not game consoles.

Perhaps you should include something like: For an office PC, or for a Gaming PC, and then what games you'd like to play, what hardware is involved. There are about 15 different directions you could have gone with, but instead you just left a 1 line thing that gives no more information than the thread title.

You also screwed up what forum you posted it in, Windows OS or the whole Poll Section we have in Meeting Spot would have been correct. Not gaming. Unless you meant this for a gaming PC, but again, you didn't say.

I wouldn't mind seeing a requirement that you have to be a member for 6 months and have 150+ posts before you are allowed to create a poll. Maybe then we'd get polls that were actually worthwile to participate in, and gave interesting and even usable data.

Where is windows 2000? ;)

I voted XP because the XP x64 will be my future project with incoming 45nm Intel Quad.

I didn't vote because I have no idea what I'm voting about.

You should expand your poll by this

Vista 32bit
Vista 64bit
XP 32bit
XP 64bit

That should clear up some issues.

Plus, what happened to Mac, Linux, Windows 2000 / 98SE ?

It doesn't clear up anything, that was the point behind my rant above. Without context the question is worthless.

SNGX1275, I don't mean to sound condescending but... it's a simple question with a simple answer... do you prefer XP or Vista... I thought XP instantly; Vista has too many bugs and poor backwards compatibility.

You can get deeper into it and discuss things I like in vista that XP doesn't provide but like the thread suggests... simple question, simple answer.

As a good example,I paid $260 for XP Home just before Vista arrived.
I had read of it's differences and didn't wait for it to arrive.
I doubt if it had people lined up for 2 possibly rainy days.
I have no plans to Update to Vista.It's just a way to put more $$$
in M$oft's pockets.XP is a good OS if you spend some time customizeing it.
I use Classic Mode.:D

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Why did you attach that image? LOL

VISTA will own Xp once they get bugs worked out. :) It will be a better world for me.

Then i might upgrade.
;)

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i have vista and i would say that it'll be much better once SP1 comes out but like SNGX, i can't vote in this poll because it would depend on what the pc is going to be used for. if it was a gaming pc i'd say XP but if it's just an every day use pc e.g. emails, word processing etc then i'd say vista (if the pc came pre-loaded with it, otherwise i'd put xp on)

SNGX1275, I don't mean to sound condescending but... it's a simple question with a simple answer... do you prefer XP or Vista... I thought XP instantly; Vista has too many bugs and poor backwards compatibility.

You can get deeper into it and discuss things I like in vista that XP doesn't provide but like the thread suggests... simple question, simple answer.
Fair enough. I guess I just expect the level of discussion on this board to be above that of 3rd grade level. This XP vs Vista question with no indication on what to be comparing is only slightly better than a question of orange vs brown.

And if the Topic starter does not contribute any it makes the whole thing worthless. Now we have people voting XP or Vista but voting for potentially entirely different reasons. Maybe one guy thinks Vista has bugs in it so he votes XP, while another person thinks Vista has better security so he votes Vista. Now someone else votes XP just because that is the only OS they've ever used, and it seems alright. 3 voters, all placed votes for entirely different reasons, giving no valid data to draw any conclusions off of. If you are going to have a poll, make it something where real conclusions can be made. If you want to participate in stupid polls then go play in the Everybody Votes channel on your Wii (if you don't have a Wii I'm sure there are plenty of websites out there with stupid polls, and if we aren't careful TS is going to be one of those places).

Oh God, not one of these threads D: . Well....

Get what you prefer! Everyone's opinion is different.

thank you, cfitzarl, somebody needed to say it eventually but didn't know how

I configure computers and i like XP better than vista, on any platform, home, gaming or business. Vista business sucks, IDK about the home package but ima stick with XP for a long time.

Vista and DX 10 I kno is a issue with people...and XP does not cause many problems because it has been out a long time. So now you know why i voted :D

The poll is indeed lacking some context but if I was to take it literally "choose for a new PC", and I would assume it's a well equipped one, then I would go with Windows Vista.

That could vary a lot depending on the intended use however...

Oh God, not one of these threads D: . Well....

Get what you prefer! Everyone's opinion is different.

Basically what I was saying in more words :P

Like myzz I work with both XP and Vista on a daily basis and for about 80% of things XP just has it. But I do really want vista to catch up because I do love some of the features of Vista.

I think we need to discuss vista what would you choose for a new PC?


XP HOME for new pc

Problem here is that windows vista has replaced win XP. I work in an electronic store and we no longer sell XP nor computers running it. We got rid of the last ones about a month ago. Vista is really not that bad for a new home user, and people who are experienced computer uses will find ways to get around the most annoying stuff.

The thing is Ph30nix, we shouldn't have to.

Dixon's have seen a 2% drop in sales since they stopped selling XP machines.

I know it's Dixon's but still that's a lot for a big company.

I am extremely sorry about the bad describtion this is for gaming! I also was including all variations of XP and Vista. I was being rushed when I made the poll and I really wish that I waited to get more ideas for the thing.

cosmos100, I am aware of that. To be honest I prefer XP overall as I have had much more experience and use with it. There are some things I like about Vista, and some I dont. For example accessing files and manipulating them such as deleting, copying etc is a real pain in Vista, as is installing programs or changing "important System Settings". However, for browsing the net and word processing I much prefer Vista.

So I suppose it really depends on what you are actually doing. The majority of people who come into buy laptops either know nothing, only wanting to do the above mentioned activities, and they are fine with the more simpler laptops. Then there are people who know what sort of hardware they want, eg dedicated graphics on a laptop or build in tv tuner etc.

To me its not really a problem. If you are a hardcore gamer then you can still find copies of XP floating around, but in time (hopefully soon) Vista will take off with DX10 games. Although I was too young to remember what actually took place when XP came in, I can imagine it was very similar as I still have a couple of games laying around that wont run on XP.

To me its not really a problem. If you are a hardcore gamer then you can still find copies of XP floating around, but in time (hopefully soon) Vista will take off with DX10 games..

I'm sure that somebody will create a crack for DirectX 10 to work on XP.

i think that somebody may have already cracked it, i can't remember where i read it but it might have been TS's front page

As a good example,I paid $260 for XP Home just before Vista arrived.

OUCH....!

I have no plans to Update to Vista.It's just a way to put more $$$
in M$oft's pockets.XP is a good OS if you spend some time customizeing it.
I use Classic Mode.:D

The irony here is that money spent for XP or Vista ends up in the same pocket anyway.

Last months (aptly, nay ironically named) "security updates" for Outlook Express and IE-6 locked my machine out of the internet altogether. Now, that's really secure!!! If you can't connect, you can't be compromised, no one could fault the logic there. However, you just have to wonder what was the reason. It would be all too easy to read a conspiracy theory into it. (I didn't, conspiracy theories give a headache. Moreover, I just automatically assumed incompetence or disinterest on the part of M$ ).
As I thought I read here on TechSpot, M$ is going to sell OEM XP licenses for an extra few months, (past January), due to demand for XP and lack of consumer enthusiasm for Vista. If this isn't so, somebody please tell me, cause I'd like to buy an OEM copy of XP Pro just to save for one of those rainy days you spoke of.

I like having a legit copy of XP because restoring drivers is a pain when you restore every three months. Need a lab of computers for their own seperate functions.

I heard about MSofts vista keys causing people to call back and re-register their product key # so perhaps the Crack has already begun.

Its true about the vista keys. I work in retail and had to call microsoft for a customer to get the activation key because he thought we were selling him a dodgy product.

wow what an angry debates here. have you all seen don't give up on vista (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRAUlK8_2VE) trick? i prefer XP. my boyfriend has vista on his laptop, just because it was already installed when he bought it. and we though, well that's vista, but new things are supposed to be better etc etc. and guess what, it's 5 months now, and we still are not used to using it! i'm not talking about all the technical details, but vista is so inconvenient.

I've been using Vista since Feburary, I don't have any problems using it. I don't know what people are trying to do that find using it hard, sure things aren't always in the exact same spot as XP, but they are there and the help in Vista is actually useful (unlike xp and everything prior) if you can't find something.

I've been using Vista since Feburary, I don't have any problems using it. I don't know what people are trying to do that find using it hard, sure things aren't always in the exact same spot as XP, but they are there and the help in Vista is actually useful (unlike xp and everything prior) if you can't find something.


I agree, people make to much of a deal about its "so called SUPER loads of problems"

it's not really got that many problems, just that backward compatibility is a bit poor and apparently it's slower than xp sp2, which i would agree with (info from here (http://www.techspot.com/news/27986-windows-xp-service-pack-3-offers-performance-boost.html))

other than that it looks good and some people just find it hard to get used to new things

And when XP came out it was slower than 98se, games were optimized for 98se, ect. What hurts Vista on these forums is the sheer number of members that were less than 12-14 years old when XP came out, so they never had a very established knowledge base of how 98 was and how XP was when it came out.

it's not really got that many problems, just that backward compatibility is a bit poor and apparently it's slower than xp sp2, which i would agree with (info from here (http://www.techspot.com/news/27986-windows-xp-service-pack-3-offers-performance-boost.html))

other than that it looks good and some people just find it hard to get used to new things


Ya i agree now never mind.

Well i've done 95-2K upgrades and yeaa even those are a pain in the @$$. The thing is the average pc user will just get lost in vista because the GU-Interface is more advanced. 2K-XP is not a bad leap..But XP-Vista is confusing, esp with dumb pop ups asking for permissions.

Over-all I would stick to XP regardless but eventually im sure to have a Vista machine, it's inevitable.

I like the advanced control of Vista, the only downside is the system resources it can eat. It also seems a lot harder to get malware on vista than xp

You can always shut off the "Aeroglass". This will give you a copy of Vista that works like XP, but nags like a wife.

You can turn off UAC too, then it doesn't nag anymore than XP. And of course it uses more resources than XP, several years of hardware advancements seperate them. If you are that concerned about resources then you don't have a computer that can handle Vista, try Windows 2000 instead.

If you are that concerned about resources then you don't have a computer that can handle Vista, try Windows 2000 instead.

That's just cold....! (ROTFLOL)

Everyone has a different opinion , I voted for Windows XP but if Mac OSX 10.4 or 10.5 was up there I would definitely wouldn't have voted for XP.

windows xp

pros

Stability with drivers and software.
The startup is resource is not consuming on cpu.
The graphics arent taking up big resources.

cons

Can not support direct x 10 (built for vista only)
Does not have the latest security allowing security threats like trojans and viruses and hackers.

Windows Vista

pros

Supports the latest security
Supports Direct X 10 and the latest graphics

Cons

Resource consuming on cpu on startup from services,aero style and the rest of the effects
Compatibility Issues- Drivers Such as Sound and Software like Antivirus (However this may change in time due to availability of service packs and updates)

(personal opinion) The graphics look like a mac operating system if i wanted one im sure i would have got one

Well hmm winXP does not support DX10 then WHY the heck are game like WIC and COH playable on XP DX10 machines?

Rookies

Nothing wrong with WIN2K, But personally I would not install it on my own machine.

I will have to go with Windows Vista, but do not take me wrong. This is only for now, since I haven't used XP in about 10 months. However when XP SP3 comes out, I'm dumping Vista, since the DX10 is all just a gimmick so far, and Crysis can also be played in DX9, with almost 95% of the exact same effects as in DX10 very high mode.

I have Vista 64-bit and I am perfectly happy with it.
There are some annoying bits and some old 32-bit software (like Zonealarm) won't work. Also I can't find out how to switch autorun annd stuff on but hey.... I still like it.

This happens every time a new OS comes out, just wait and it'll get better. Of course, on the other hand, that philosophy did'nt work for WIndows ME :)

ok this is a quick reply so I will make it just that, I like Xp because I know Xp, now I know that vista has a tendency to eat up all of the resources but if the computer it is running on can support all of the crap it does fine I guess I will learn a new O.S.

Well people are forced to learn a new OS because these new machines come out with vista. But im XP for now until VISTA is not perfected but more solid. But you can customize Vista to your likeness which is not bad @ all.

yeah at least you can turn vista into the xp style or any visual style you like at least that somethink.

Thats probably why they designed it that way so you can make it look like Xp, they try to make it so there is little reason for people to complain about having to learn a new OS

We just don't live in a perfect world where everything is 64-bit 100%, it's still a 32-bit world with some 16-bit applications and games still hanging on. Next round-up 128-bit, 256-bit, 512-bit 1024-bit an so on..

XP Pro for the win! (does'nt enjoy the vista on his laptop)