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  #41  
Old 06-16-2006
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vista and stat 3 gbs

ive hearsd their are some problems installing vista on sata 2 or stata 3gb\s drives

andone have a similar problem or does it install ok on yor drives

any imput is apprwated

thanks
  #42  
Old 06-16-2006
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Can't say I know, but my guess is that, just like XP, you need the SATA driver loaded during setup somehow. But unless your SATA controller manu has new drivers, you may be in hot water.

Just guesses.
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  #43  
Old 06-16-2006
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thanks for the quick responce, i have onboard stat 3\gb\s so i dobnt have to worry about drivers durng installation
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Old 06-17-2006
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Doesn't matter if it's onboard, it still uses a SATA controller, which means XP still may need the driver.
Although XP DOES have drivers for some controllers, but not all. So it's a toss-up whether it'll work or not.

One way to tell is, to try! If XP sees your hard drive, it's good. Otherwise, it may tell you that you don't have any hard disks. Thus you need a driver.
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Old 06-17-2006
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My Xp Home SP2 upgrade CD has a driver for may ASRock DualSATA2's onboard PCI-e 4x SATA2 controller. Still I can't get past the second screen when I boot the DVD. I going to put in a IDE drive soon and try again. It may be something else wrong altogether.
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Old 06-18-2006
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lets say i get the 80gb sata 2 hard drive and i want to duel boot with 2 seporate hard drives, do i need to use a 3rd party boot manager

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  #47  
Old 06-18-2006
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XP HAS a boot manager. It's just a matter of setting it up right. I think if you install Windows to one HDD, then install again to the other drive during setup, it may do it all for you.
Doesn't hurt to try.
  #48  
Old 06-18-2006
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thanks but i think you dont exactly understand what im doing

i have windows xp on one hard drive an 80GB HATCHI SATA3.0gb\s

I want to install windows vista beta on a second hard drive runnig on an ide or sata port without reinstalling xp
  #49  
Old 06-21-2006
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I've a SATA drive and was a bit worried after reading some of the horror stories - so I just upgraded my current MCE install, went fine. It's a bit of a system hog though...

I'm having real hassles with video playback - WMP and DivX players both the same juttery video. QT files fine though... anyone have similar problems ?
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Old 06-21-2006
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I put in a IDE drive and still have the same problem. I'll install the 32bit from window because the 64bit installer will not run under Xp.
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Old 06-21-2006
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Ok swker98 I get it. But you shouldn't have to uninstall XP. Memory escaped me for what you've already tried to do.

You might check out this bootloader, it may do the trick:
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/bootmgr/
  #52  
Old 06-21-2006
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thanks man

im gonna try it wqith an sata drive

if the drive installed without any drivers will vista be the same way
thanks for the link will come in handy
  #53  
Old 06-21-2006
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Not sure what you mean about Vista being the same way. If the Vista installer sees your SATA drive at all, then your golden. Otherwise you'll be the first here (I think) to have a Vista/SATA/Driver problem.
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Old 06-21-2006
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ok cool


thanks for your help
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Old 06-22-2006
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Hey guys. Vista is pretty cool eh? Except for it being agrivatingly slow. Anyway let me wade in on the dual booting thing. I installed a 30GB hard drive I had laying around. I formatted the drivew in NTFS. I reset the BIOS to boot from CD. When it came time I chose the 30 gig now my G drive and started the installation. Everything went pretty sooth, the boot loader worked fine and all. There was one little problem. When I booted to Vista the G drive became my C drive and the other 5 partitions got their lettering scrambled. When I booted to XP Home my original C drive became my C drive....again. Not good and too confusing for a feeble minded fogie like me! j/k, it's not that bad yet.

Anyway I did a quick wipe of the G and made sure my drive letter associations were intact in Disk Management. Then I booted into XP Home and started the Vista CD in windows. This works I guess because it's both an upgrade and a fresh installer. When it came time to choose the location I specified the G drive and the installation went flawlessly. I now have Vista running on my G drive. Oh oh, a new minor problem. The boot loader shows 2 vista programs and the XP, now called older windows OS or some such. Since the bootloader is on the C drive I figured I could modify the boot.ini file to delete the old Vista which gives you an error when you try to load it.

Well there wasn't anything on the boot.ini file. That's because Vista uses a different version. A file called bcdedit.exe which is in the system32 folder. The only way to open it is with the command prompt, and no matter what I did, it kept denying me permission to modify it. What I ended up doing was opening msconfig and went to the boot tab, where I was able to delete it.

Now everything is hunky dory, as David would say. I just have the Vista and the XP on the boot loader window now.

Something else. Be watchful as some of the sites with updated "Vista" drivers? Well they just don't work on a fresh install. I thing they (AVG for one) were designed to upgrade their perogram if you do an upgrade, not a clean install. Anyway excuse me now. I'm so tired of all these security prompts, I'm going to go undo what MS tried so hard to build, and reassign all the files on my G drive. Permissions, ownership, effective permissions etc. I'm expecting at least one crash along the way so I may as well just push the envelope from the get go eh? Oh last thing. I ordered the Vista CD on Sunday and it came today Wednesday. Pretty impressive.

Edit sorry about the spelling. I haven't installed IESpel yet.
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Old 07-20-2006
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Umm... This might be a little bit off topic, but i cant install windows vista build 5456. I wrote about it in a little bit more detail in another thread called "Windows Vista Beta 2 Build 5384 Compatibility List". See that for more details
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