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Old 06-11-2006
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CPU Price War!

Offical AMD Price List

HKECP reports that on the day after the release of Conroe (Intel's Core 2 Duo for desktops) AMD will cut the dual core X2's prices 35% to 50%, Athlon 64's 20%-30% and Semprons 10%-15% to match Intel's prices:

Intel Prices on July 23
Core 2 Duo
  • X6800 2.93GHz 4mb $999
    E6700 2.67GHz 4mb $530
    E6600 2.40GHz 4mb $316
    E6400 2.13GHz 2mb $224
    E6300 1.86GHz 2mb $183
Pentium D
  • 960 $316
    950 $224
    945 $163
    940 $183
    820 $113
    805 $93
Pentium 4
  • 661 $183
    651, 641, and 631 $163
    541 $84
    531 $74
    524 $69
AMD has lowered Athlon 64 prices right now:
  • Athlon 64 3000 $89
    Athlon 64 3200 $99
    Athlon 64 3500 $109
    Athlon 64 3800 $139

AMD prices on July 24

Athlon X2
  • 5000+ $403
    4600+ $301
    3800+ $169
Sempron
  • 3600+ $109
    3500+ $97
    3400+ $87
    3200+ $77
    3000+ $67
    2800+ $53
Some etailers already show these low prices on Athlon single cores, plus a small markup. All these reductions will not be enough to gain price/performance lead back for AMD from Conroe and it will not be good for it's profits, but we enthusiast have to love this price war.

As it was Intel practically gave CPUs to Dell, and other like us and HP payed the difference. WE FINANCED DELL! Now Intel is going to a flat pricing list, we will all pay about the same. HP can now match Dell, and now Dell will sell AMD.

So don't go thinking Intel is loosing money with it's very low prices. It's just everybody getting the same price and Intel getting the same profit. AMD is paying the price. They may get some Dell sales, but at the cost of lowering prices to EVERYONE!

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32452
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Originally Posted by The Inquirer
...to maximize profits without impacting production to a great degree, AMD has felt it necessary to get rid of the lower margin desktop 1MB L2 cores. This change affects both Rev. E and Rev. F production, as all 1MB L2 cores will be allocated to the Opteron lines.
1M and 1Mx2 core are gone. Sandy and Toledo are dead, the first casualties of this war.

939 3000+ and 3200+ reach EOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMD
Per customers' request to simplify the roadmap for these products, the Athlon 3000+ and 3200+ processors are going End of Life.
Low end 939 Athlon single cores are added to the casualties list.

AMD to launch pricing campaign to counter Intel

Quote:
Originally Posted by DigiTimes
After actively talking to motherboard makers in search of ways to counter Intel's price cuts, AMD has come up with a new pricing solution, despite tight production capacity and possible erosion of its profits, the sources said.
Intel Tells Customers It Will Cut Prices by 60% to Gain Share

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloomberg
Advanced Micro [devices] also told Gigabyte that it plans to cut prices, though not by as much as Intel...

...Intel's sales chief declined to comment...

"The idea of price competition or competition in general is new to the other guy,'' Advanced Micro's [devices] Meyer said of Intel. "Price competition doesn't scare us.''
Intel pricing has really hit AMD hard. As of now they are using 90nm on 200mm wafers at all but one FAB that is using 90nm on 300mm wafers. Add in the IMC and die size is limiting yields to a point they can not be price competitive. For now Intel is squeezing AMD with super low prices from it's high yield 65nm on 300mm wafer process with out the IMC taking up space. I'd expect to see Intel go with some sort of IMC with 45nm, as the die size will allow it profitably and Moorse's law may require it.

Now people are loosing their jobs. Around 1000 Intel managers will be giving severance packages. AMD caned all people that worked on Geode at their Colorado center. This war is getting personal--2000 people looking for new jobs.

AMD's Prices,
\http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3361

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Old 06-11-2006
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that's great news indeed for us enthusiasts ..but it's a pity i just bought a new a64 3500+ with 217$ :|...2 months ago..
well when conroe comes out i'll just have to sell it and buy an intel weeee can't wait. :P
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The intel product lineup confuses me. I mean who in their right mind would buy a 950, 960, or 661 when for the same price(or less) you can get a conroe e6300?

I think intel should completely ditch their entire lineup of desktop processors once conroe is released, or maybe start selling off the 6xx and 9xx series as "celerons," since their performance is limited compared to conroe.

Have to agree though, price wars do make for nice prices for enthusiasts.
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Yeah, and I would like to see on Newegg the Athlon 64 3500+ at $105 :giddy:
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The intel product lineup confuses me. I mean who in their right mind would buy a 950, 960, or 661 when for the same price(or less) you can get a conroe e6300?
Those who don't want to buy a new mainboard.
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Those who don't want to buy a new mainboard.
I guess I assumed that most people would be building new or getting a new motherboard anyway, so that's a good point.

Almost forgot how intel likes to force it's users into upgrades. I mean, when they first come out with 775 it works with pentium 4 cpus, then along comes pentium d, which uses the same socket, but won't work on the current existing boards. Now along comes conroe, and it's the same socket, but incompatible with most existing boards. So they basically have 3 "revisions" of 775 boards, those for pentium 4's, those for pentium d's, and those for conroe.
At least on amd 939 boards, when dual cores came out, it only required a bios update, not a complete system overhaul. Although amd is doing the same with am2, which supposedly is a "temporary socket." At least according to some rumor...
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Current AM2 mobos should work with K8L when it comes out next spring. It will work with revision G cores out in December (but just to OEMs.) Revision G should be faster per clock that current revision F cores. So a AM2 mobo is good for a couple years, and it looks like the Conroe mobos will be too. In 2008 Intel is making a new socket. Intel has only been able to keep backwards compatibilty so far. Some how ASRock has two 865 chipset Conroe mobos.

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Old 06-13-2006
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Prices for X2 and Semprons at the DailyTech.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800
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Old 06-13-2006
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well newegg hasnt droped any prices yet, hopfully i can pick upa 4800+ for under $400
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Old 06-13-2006
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AM2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ubCategory=343
939 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ubCategory=343
X2's get slashed July 24

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Old 06-13-2006
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o ok cool, i dont really want to go single core anywways, will all the x2 939 be cut aswell?
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Old 06-13-2006
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Only the 2x512mb cache ones get slashed, so a 5000+ is like $400, and a FX-62 will be over $1000. That's just crazy. :unch:

The higher cache chips are going away to be re-badged as Opterons and sold for more money. The die size is too big to be profitable at these prices. With AM2, the die size is 20-30% bigger anyway so yields are lower, yet the prices are the same.

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Old 06-17-2006
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But no price drops for Opterons, neither S939 nor S940
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Old 06-17-2006
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Price War = sweet
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Old 06-18-2006
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Conroe baby yea.
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Old 06-18-2006
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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2771&p=1

Newier benchmarks. Conroe x6800 offered about 30% speed increase over the FX-62.

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Old 06-18-2006
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A more complete price list form HKEPC is attached.
It's from their X6800 vs. FX-62 and 965EE review.

Intel Core Microarchitecture Review: Nightmare of AMD
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Old 06-19-2006
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good thing i waited for buyign a a64 3000+ bc now i can get the Manchester 3500+ for $3 more :knock:
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Old 06-21-2006
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The 939 3000+ and 3200+ cut from the line up, just more casualties in this war. There is not enough profit in these chips and most easily clock well past a 3800+ anyway--they may as well sell them as such and char appropriately.
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Old 07-05-2006
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the 3800+ seems pretty attractive for $169 might consider to upgrade it over the 3500+ Newcastle I have now
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