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Old 10-29-2006
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Compatibility Question - Please Ansewer!!!

Hey everyone,

I have selected parts for a new Computer i'm going to build myself. I know that these parts will be able to max out games like Wow and CS:S,But I have another Concern. My concern is if the parts i have selected are all compatible with each other. I reasearched and checked it out, and i believe that they are, but i don't know for sure. Please tell me if the parts listed below are all compatible with each other:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103861

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127234

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195001

With

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195001

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145574

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136033

With

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102163

And

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153031

(BTW sorry for leaving so manu posts . As you can See, I'm investing alot of money in this computer and i wanna make sure that everything will work)
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Old 10-29-2006
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Right off the bat, you have an AM2 socket cpu going into a socket 939 motherboard. This will not work.

You should consider an AM2 motherboard, Crossfire ready. This will also likely cause you to change your memory as most AM2 motherboards use DDR2 vs DDR memories.
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Old 10-29-2006
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Yeah, But I thought that AMD wasn't compatible with DDR2? Only DDR. Was I Mis-informed?
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Old 10-29-2006
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Socket AM2 CPUs have only just been released, the purpose being to support DDR2 memory. AM2 has superseded Socket 939, I think the last Socket 939 CPU was the FX-60.
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Old 10-29-2006
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So, If I get a DDR2 Memory, It will run with The AM2?
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Alright, Just found a couple new parts from Newegg. What if I get..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103861

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130057

And the Two Graphics Cards...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195001

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195001

Those Will All be Compatible, right?
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They're compatible but an Intel Core2Duo e6600 will blow that AMD FX-62 out of the water and cost less than half as much. For 2 X1900s in crossfire you will need alot more than a 500w PSU.
Here are my recomendations:
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003 best for the price and beats an FX-62
or If you want the most powerfull desktop CPU avalible and can afford it ($950) then you can get the Core2extreme X6800: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115001
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130051
Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 the same stuff you picked.
Video cards (x2): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195001 the ones you picked
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703006 this one will handle that crossfire confiquration with power to spare.

The Hard drives and sound card you picked are fine.

Any case you want will be fine as long as it is an ATX case.
This is my presonal recomendation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068
It is also avalible with a window: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119077

Last edited by dmill89; 10-29-2006 at 11:02 PM..
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Old 10-30-2006
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I agree with dmill89 that Conroe is the way to go for a new build, though I have a few corrections to make to the proposed build:
1)This RAM has lower latency and is cheaper than the Corsair RAM u posted. Also, it's an OCZ Platinum series, so it's high-quality too.

2)This mobo has better reviews and has a larger RAM capacity than the MSI one. Plus it's cheaper too. The only real downside is that to use those two cards together u will need a Crossfire capable mobo and that is difficult to find. I have an ASUS P5WDH and I can't find it anymore on Newegg and TigerDirect. So u might wanna consider going SLI instead, since SLI-ready mobos are more easily available and SLI is easier to setup than Crossfire.

Choose any case u want, but make sure the mobo and PSU both fit in it first. The rest looks good. My system is similar, only I don't have the Raptor, I have an E6700, 4GB of RAM and an ASUS P5WDH mobo.

Last edited by Rage_3K_Moiz; 10-30-2006 at 03:28 AM..
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The best Crossfire-ready motherboard for Conroe/Core 2 is this unit right here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131025

It's a bit pricey, but well worth it. It supports both Crossfire and SLI.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rage_3K_Moiz
I agree with dmill89 that Conroe is the way to go for a new build, though I have a few corrections to make to the proposed build:
1)This RAM has lower latency and is cheaper than the Corsair RAM u posted. Also, it's an OCZ Platinum series, so it's high-quality too.

2)This mobo has better reviews and has a larger RAM capacity than the MSI one. Plus it's cheaper too. The only real downside is that to use those two cards together u will need a Crossfire capable mobo and that is difficult to find. I have an ASUS P5WDH and I can't find it anymore on Newegg and TigerDirect. So u might wanna consider going SLI instead, since SLI-ready mobos are more easily available and SLI is easier to setup than Crossfire.

Choose any case u want, but make sure the mobo and PSU both fit in it first. The rest looks good. My system is similar, only I don't have the Raptor, I have an E6700, 4GB of RAM and an ASUS P5WDH mobo.
I agree with the change in ram to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227089

The abit Rage_3K_Moiz recomended is a good motherboard but it doesn't support Sli or Crossfore (only 1 pci express x16 slot)so if you want two video cards I recomend either the MSI board I recomended earlier or if you want extra features The ASUS that Sharkfood posted is also a good board. There are also several SLI board avalible for the Conroe.

Last edited by dmill89; 10-30-2006 at 06:36 PM..
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Old 10-30-2006
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Okay! I've selected, changed, And asked questions on Alot of Different parts. I'm tired of asking questions on forums and researching! I've come to a final conclusion on parts for a Gaming PC usuing the book, "Build the Ultimate Gaming PC" And Everyones Advice on the forums, and my personal Input. So here it is, The Final Selection and Conclusion :


Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M sharing L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor – No payment (6 months no Payment of Purchase over $500 from Newegg)



ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - $270


OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $260

ATI 100-435721 Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $380


ATI 100-435721 Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $380

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 EPS12V EPS12V 750W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, ULC, CE, CB, RoHS - $200


Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - $150


Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $100

APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-BL Black/Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $60

NU Black 8X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 8X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 8X DVD-ROM 24X CD-R 24X CD-RW 24X CD-ROM IDE/ATAPI Internal Slim DVD Burner by Quanta Storage - $60

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum 70SB035000003 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - $182


Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speaker - $90


GIGABYTE 3D Cooler GH-PCU22-SE Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink - $20

Thermaltake A2016 80mm 1 Ball, 1 Sleeve Blue LED Light Case Cooling Fan - $14

Thermaltake A2018 120mm 1 Ball, 1 Sleeve Blue LED Light Case Cooling Fan - $13

AG Neovo F-419 BLACK Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 - $215

RAZER Copperhead Blue 7 Buttons 1x Wheel USB Laser Tempest Gaming Mouse - $50

Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard - $45


There! That is Absolutly everything That I'm buying. If i'm missing something, tell me. Better yet, Tell me if this will Max out and Run Games like WoW And CS:S Completley Lag-free. Also, Tell me If these parts are ALL Compatible. If you guys Agree with me that this new PC is gunna be a real Kickass one, Then I'm buying it. Please, Tell me honestly if this computer is worth it, And How it will run. I'm investing alot of money in it, And I wanna make sure this thing is worth the trouble. The Parts Listed above are my Final choices, unless Told otherwise.


THANKS!!!!!
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That's a nice rig and should run anything out now at max settings.
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Big thumbs-up on everything on that list. My only suggestions would be:
1) Feel free to shuffle the hard drives by brand/sizing if you wish to customize disk space at all. Any 7200rpm or 10,000rpm SATA HD's will work fine.
2) NewEgg has the XiFi Fatal1ty on sale for $145. Might want to upgrade to the XiFi Fat. or Platinum as you're already at a $189 budget for an Audigy 2.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102005
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Old 10-30-2006
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Thats a very nice rig, the only thing i have to say is that u might wanna wait till the DX10 video cards r out. seems pretty pointless getting 2 1900's now wen the DX10 carsd will be out soon, plus quad core CPU's will be out soon aswell!
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Yeah, I was thinking about that, But then a single word made me change my mind ...

Price.

Those things must cost a Jedi's ransom!
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Old 10-31-2006
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Originally Posted by Blackjack
Yeah, I was thinking about that, But then a single word made me change my mind ...

Price.

Those things must cost a Jedi's ransom!
LOL. Very true though. Also, if u want a good quality, inexpensive sound card, try the ones from Diamond available on Newegg, they're around $30-40 and offer great features as well.
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Old 10-31-2006
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"Those things must cost a Jedi's ransom!"

HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA, I LOVE THE JEDI RANSOM REMARK!
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Old 10-31-2006
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NU Black 8X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 8X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 8X DVD-ROM 24X CD-R 24X CD-RW 24X CD-ROM IDE/ATAPI Internal Slim DVD Burner by Quanta Storage - $60
This optical drive is for laptops.
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Old 10-31-2006
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Yeah I was gonna point that out too. Blackjack, look for a Plextor if u want the best burning performance and if money is not a problem. Otherwise, get an NEC, Sony or a Samsung DVD burner, they're among the best ones. Avoid the LG GSA-H10, since it seems to be slower at reading and burning than other drives. I personally have seen this and it is the precise reason I chose a Samsung drive. Other LG models seem fine though.
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Old 10-31-2006
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Why would a Jedi need a ransom?

He/She would get out of a situation like that alone, without outside help.
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