http://salon.com/tech/wire/2002/03/1...orn/index.html

I think this is about time.

I only hope that this serves as an example to other states and nations, who I hope in turn emulate these laws.

This comes on the eve of a new study suggesting that the distribution of child pornography is rife on the internet, as are child abuse rings and groups.

Its ALL involved.... http, ftp, irc, newsgroups, icq! All of these technologies that I love dearly are being used by these foul little perverts to organise, distribute and meet.

It makes me ashamed that I am involved in working in an industry that is helping these people.

Whoever you are out there, if you are listening, I defy you! If I EVER come across you, you will regret the day you ever met me. I will always report you. I will provide the authorities with evidence if I have it. If I find you on irc, http or ftp I will report you. If I ever repair your machine, you will be reported. I hope you burn in hell like you deserve. You are everything about the internet that I despise!!!!

Hear hear.
I can't believe that took so long...

FBI Arrests Priests, Police for Internet Child Porn
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...dc_2&printer=1
Mon Mar 18, 5:42 PM ET By James Vicini
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

Now if they could just pass legislation about SPAM!
http://www.3dspotlight.com/vb/showth...=&threadid=724

It would be nice if that could become a generalized Law.

While I'm obviously against those sort of things I'm not sure how they can effectively block it fully (Other than what's listed). It's a bit like passing a law that says its the parents responsibility to ensure their kids don't curse, not sure how that can be worked effectively are you?

I think one way of reading it is that if you are knowingly aware of someone using your service to deal in child porn, then you should report them.

It should be the same for computer techs. If I repair a computer, and whilst doing so find child porn on it, then it should be an offence for me not to report that.

But I would anyway...

I do not condone child porn! Let that be known before you read this.
But really, is it that much of a problem that ISP's have to block sites that you can go to?
Once again, I am not advocating child porn. I do not ever care to see a 7 year old chick having sexual things being done to her. I am just wondering why it has to be blocked
I'm sure there are some places in the world where you can get on the internet, and Child Porn is not illegal.

But then you have the problems of people claiming that they didn't put it there and its possible that in some cases their machine could have been hacked and someone on the net was using it as an ftp....
These things do happen. I don't know how easy it is to prove either way though

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here's your Candyman

Valid point Arris.
But those people that route through another computer might also find a way to get around the ISP blocking.? Hey I don't know. Just contributing to discussion.

May all pedophiles be forced to share a cell with Gary Glitter!!!
And listen to his music!!!!

Who is Gary Glitter???? Never heard of him

But obviously he isn't something good.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...en/glitter.htm

The '70's Glam Rocker w/ the famous 'The Hey Song'
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there's the problem.

As I said, this comes on the eve of a new study suggesting that the child pornography problem is MUCH WORSE on the internet than anyone had imagined.

There are IRC channels that are essentially paedophile rings where people OPENLY ADMIT TO CHILD ABUSE! They use these to organise child abuse rings, parties, meetings, and so forth.

All this time the courts are tied up with music companies suing everyone under the sun for swapping mp3s - where are the multi-million dollars being spent on finding people swapping child porn and contacts for these paedophile rings??

This world has its priorities in the wrong place. We are content to let this continue because its not costing any big companies any revenue, but are instead pumping millions of dollars into creating a computer that will not participate in piracy.

Why are we not pumping millions of dollars into creating a computer that shops paedophiles to the authorities????

But oh, no, no.... We are more concerned about me getting a copy of Madonna's latest track as an mp3 than we are about these sick SOBs using the great power of the internet to organise, meet, swap their filth....

It makes me sick. Sick that I am working to promote the technology of an industry that is helping these people.

I wish they would all burn.

And one day, I shall invent a technology that sees that the internet is NOT a place where these people flourish. Unless someone else beats me to it.

Gary Glitter 'seduced girl, 14'

Gary Glitter in child porn probe


Would you like to be in close proximity to this??? I think not :eek:

Ai Hate : Child pornography is certainly not legal in the UK!

Personally, Arris, I'd like to see the Sicko put to death.

Its bad enough that he's a famous person with a fan base (God knows why....) who should be an example to the public, but also that he turned up in court dressed in all that "glitter" outfit and hair, quite blatantly giving a big two fingers to the court, that girl and her family and the good people of the public.

Gary Glitter was a music, ermmm, icon. He actually got caught by, as far as a I recall, he sent his PC in to get repaired & whoever was repairing it musta have decided to check out his files/internet explorer history, etc.
So he got found out like that.
I also read him & his wife are moving to CUBA as "that sort of thing is more accepted over there". Or so the report said.

Surprising how easy it is to catch anyone at this sorta thing. I remember using my bosses laptop which happened to have 3 avi's I'm sure his wife wouldn't appreciate (errr, all adult of course) "hidden" away, not to mention the stuff he had asked at ask jeeves (tsk, tsk not disabling autocomplete).

I agree with you all that paedophiles are a stain on this wonderful world we're living on, and especially on the net...

But I ask you, what is paedophilea? Where does the age limit go? Is it 18 years? Is it 16? is it 13? where? And why?

I Norway it was quite common to get married when the girl was 13/14 years old, as she then was mature enough to conceive a child. (Though this is quite a while ago...)
And I do believe it was the same in the UK...

And whilst I find it disgusting to think that there are 30+ year old men looking at nude 14 year old girls, I don't have the same problem with a 14 year old boy looking at nude 14 year old girls...

What are your views on this? Is it ok for people of the same age to look at other people of the same age nude? Why/why not?


NOTE: In this post I talk about softcore porn i.e. nude pic's, where no sexual act is underway!

To answer some of the Q's myself:

I'd say agelimit for pics: 16 years old, as that is the age when you are allowed to become sexually active (in norway). If you can have sex, you should also be able to pose for pics imo...

As for what paedophilea is, I'd have to say it's men looking at nude girls under the sexual age, be it pics/ videos/whatever.
I.e. If I were looking at nude 14 year olds, I'd consider myself a paedophile... (please note that I do not have any interest in any pics of underage girls!)

I do however find it acceptable that a 13/14/15 y.o. looks at nude pics (not sexual act!) of other 13/14/15 y.o.... Though I'm a bit unsure about this, as the pics are most likely taken by an older person, which I would find unacceptable... A bit of a problem there, I know, but...


I'd very much like to hear what you think about this...