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Do you think 'pwn' is a word?
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12 | 32.43% |
| No |
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25 | 67.57% |
| Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Do you think 'pwn' is a word?
Hey guys.
As texting and IM replaces writing traditional letters ppl keep making up new ways to type faster: better interfaces, ergonomic keyboards and, most significantly, shortening commonly-used words.'Because' becomes 'cuz', 'before' is now 'b4' and vowels are missing from scores of short words like 'the' and 'than'. There are also some new words like 'pwn' and 'noob' that are often classified as "unwords". This collection of new and modified words, sometimes called "netspeak", is almost indisputably a new dialect of English. It has become discernible from "normal" English just in the last five or ten years or so. Please don't make fun of me if I'm the last person on Earth to realize this . I just wanted to post this so I could refer to it in an email I'm going to write to my school board, saying the current English curriculum is getting old.EDIT: I sent my message to the school board and it was forwarded to "the Superintendent of Teaching and Learning". I hope he replies soon, my last message took four days to be forwarded and a month to be replied to. Last edited by Envergure; 06-05-2007 at 04:06 PM. |
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I think that PWN is much more esoteric than other netspeak like 'noob', YMMV, TTYL, etc. But they are all up and comers to the living language we call English. The people at Merriam-Websters dictionary add hundreds of new words every year, though it takes them a while to 'certify' a new word. Here are three of their 'new' words from their Technology & Computers category (2006 edition)
mouse potato ringtone spyware So, as you can see, they do not add new words to the dictionary until they have been in use for several years. I believe that one of their criteria is finding certain publications using the new words repeatedly without explanation. Their concern is the potential longevity of the new word as they do not want to add words that will fall out of use shortly thereafter. But, without question, Internet-ese is adding to the written lexicon and will continue to do so. How much it will affect spoken language, remains to be seen. |
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pwn is a word i use it all da time
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I voted no as "pwn" is clearly a slang term.
The term was one of 16 to appear on the 2006 "List of Words and Phrases Banished from the Queen's English for Misuse, Overuse and General Uselessness I along with a lot of other folks here at Techspot are of the opinion that the overuse of slang is detrimental. Before anyone points it out, I am aware that everybody uses some slang from time to time. However, some posts I see are barely legible and very difficult to understand. Text speak, while ok with limited characters on a mobile phone, have no place here as far as I`m concerned. End of rant. Regards Howard ![]() Last edited by howard_hopkinso; 06-04-2007 at 05:12 PM. |
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Excellent, Amen Howard.
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i also voted no and i did not just do that to go with the flow it's just i have never heard and/or seen that abbreveation
with pie Pieman |
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To NetCablesPlus,
Very interesting. But if that's true, how do they include those rediculous words like 'floccinaucinihilipilification'? (and "Constantinople" and "Timbuktu") To howoard_hopkinso, I've seen that list before. I thought it was stupid; if ppl want to use a word than let them. On the plus side, it's the funniest thing I've ever read! To Pieman, Just because you've never seen a word doesn't mean it isn't one. 'Syzygy' is a word, and so are 'rheumatism' and 'funambulist'. (Unless you've heard all those words, but you get my point.) Thank you all for your opinions. Personally, I use 'pwn' and 'noob' all the time. It's just part of who I am cuz I play too much Halo (and sometimes BF42).Last edited by Envergure; 06-04-2007 at 06:25 PM. |
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No, it's not a word. A useful text abreviation, yes. Chat room and forum use, lazy.
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It's not an abbreviation... because it doesn't stand for anything besides the also non-word pwnage. However, I voted yes, because I hope it becomes a word only for the reason that it would be the only word in existence in the English language that doesn't have a vowel.
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Hi MetalX.
There are already some English words that don`t contain vowels. Lynx/Rhythm/Gypsy/Crypt/Nymph. I`m sure there are others, but I can`t think of them ![]() Regards Howard ![]() |
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To howard_hopkinso,
Remember from kindergarten that Y is "sometimes" a vowel? Unfortunately, the words you listed all have the "vowel" Y's. Y is a vowel if it's pronounced like an I or an E. It's only a consinant if it's pronounced "yuh", like in 'yodel' and 'Yale'. However, 'nth' is a word, and it has no Y's. 'N' is also considered a word, and it's the only one-letter word that's not a vowel (I'm pretty sure, anyway). |
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Ah, I was thinking of vowels being A/E/I/O/U.
Regards Howard ![]() |
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Yea, that's what I mean. Pwn does not contain an A,E,I,O,U, or "sometimes Y."
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Acutally, 'w' can also be used as a vowel as is the case in words like 'fawn' in which it is used much like the 'u' in 'faun' (a silent vowel that affects the pronunciation of the preceding vowel.) However, I have never seen a 'w' used as a stand alone vowel, though it may very well be in some uncommon words.
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Also note that the lexicographers, being scholars themselves, will always look more kindly on historical, scientific and other more 'scholarly' new words than those created by kids playing a new game. Fair? Perhaps not, but fairness is not necessarily part of the process. Dictionary editing is not a democracy and is completely arbitrary based upon the publisher's whims. Of course, it is subject to the natural market forces that all businesses must serve and it is important to their business that they remain relevant and of high value to their customer base. Last edited by howard_hopkinso; 06-05-2007 at 01:07 PM. Reason: Posts merged. |
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That may be so, but a lot of folks try and cram in as much as possible into a single 160 character text message, so they don`t get charged as much.
Personally, I hate text messages and like you much prefer to call.Regards Howard ![]() |
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I've probably sent a grand total of 3 text messages over cell phones, and I bet all 3 were to my sister.
I am also suprised/disappointed with the 5 results saying yes so far. |
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I don't have a cell phone. I want to get an iphone when they come out (but I have no money
), but mostly to listen to music, take pictures and browse the Web (that is, everything but phone and text). I would never use a cell phone enough to justify owning one, but if I did I'm sure I'd just call people; You can say much more in a one-minute call than a 160-char text, and it costs less on most plans anyway (at least that's what I heard). |
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My 15-year-old texts on her cellphone more than she talks, as far as I can tell. She does not email; she IM's. Texting and IMing seem to be her main form of communication with her friends. Me? I want a voice phone and an email account. Generational thing, I presume.
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I don't think it's a word....although I think it's rather an expression used after an online kill or describing one. I use it every once in a while to my friends
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ppl keep making up new ways to type faster: better interfaces, ergonomic keyboards and, most significantly, shortening commonly-used words.
. I just wanted to post this so I could refer to it in an email I'm going to write to my school board, saying the current English curriculum is getting old.

cuz I play too much Halo (and sometimes BF42).
), but mostly to listen to music, take pictures and browse the Web (that is, everything but phone and text). I would never use a cell phone enough to justify owning one, but if I did I'm sure I'd just call people; You can say much more in a one-minute call than a 160-char text, and it costs less on most plans anyway (at least that's what I heard).

