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08 elections

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by twite, Jan 21, 2007.

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Who would you vote for?

Dennis Kucinich 0 vote(s) 0.0%
Hillary Clinton 8 vote(s) 14.5%
barack obama 16 vote(s) 29.1%
Sam Brownback 1 vote(s) 1.8%
john mccain 9 vote(s) 16.4%
condoleezza rice 1 vote(s) 1.8%
Joe lieberman 0 vote(s) 0.0%
john edwards 2 vote(s) 3.6%
Steven Colbert 9 vote(s) 16.4%
George Bush 3 vote(s) 5.5%
Rudy Guilliani 6 vote(s) 10.9%
  1. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Without getting into much detail, my ideal government went be less centralized, and would be forced to work together. No sides. Their would be many more branches, but still keeping the judicial, legislative, and getting rid of the executive, and creating more less powerful branches. There would be one head branch with more power then all, with 1000 or so members, that would switch off people every session, kind of like a jury. The people would not be politicians, the would be normal citizens, that are willing to take part in their government. This branch would act as the "president" but would not have as much power, but their would be no president. That's the basics, i know it is farfetched, but its just a thought.
  2. cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,521   +9

    The only flaw in our government ideologies would be the fact that some people could work "together" and get what they want over the other people if you know what I mean.
  3. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Yes, that is true, that is one of the few advantages of political parties. They could work together, but even tho there are no "sides" people are still going to have opposing opinions. Its just a draft, i'm sure if i was actually in charge of creating a government it would be more well thought up.
  4. Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,253   +38

    Obama advocates high-speed for everyone in all reaches of the nation... Now there's a candidate who'll get my vote. ;)
  5. Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,253   +38

    Indeed. Parties are meant to be another part of the checks & balances process. Unfortunately, it has also led many to deceive and conspire where they would have had otherwise not.

    Working together or not though, I think we'd probably have the same problems. :)
  6. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Your right, we probably would. Politics are very difficult to go about.



    John Mccain is coming out strong. Interesting.

    Colbert is in 3rd..hehe
     
  7. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Nationally, it seems like It is Obama, And Giuliani Are leading the way. I am happy with either one of those two.
  8. cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,521   +9

    For God's Sake! Obama has only been in the US Government for 2 YEARS! He is very inexperienced!
  9. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Umm..yeahh...He was elected into the Illinois State Senate in 1996..That is 11 years.

    "being in the United States Government" is considered experience? What Experience do you get? How to rig a election so the final vote comes down to the state that my brother happens to be governor for? Or maybe how to start a pointless war? Hmm..yeh

    Thats like saying that because someone doesn't go to college, means they are inexperienced in what they do.

    But yeh, 2 and 11, happen to be different.
  10. AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,846

    I dont want an "experienced" politician. I want someone free of ties to corporations, and PACs. I want someone that puts this country back on track.
  11. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    ..Exactly

    What does experience mean? That you can probably do the job...But it doesn't mean you are going to do it well.
  12. cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,521   +9

    My view of experience is the amount of time previously spend on a certain subject that involves what you are applying for, or running for (at least in political perspective :D). And yes, I agree with you Twite. Even experienced politicians might not be ready either.
  13. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Then what was your motive here

  14. cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,521   +9

    No...I believe that most people without experience don't know what to do, and therefore won't be able to do as thorough a job as a very experienced person. This is why we have to be careful for who we vote for. Just because someone may not be able to speak doesn't mean they won't do a good job.
  15. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    there are plenty not listed and G. Bush cannot run for re-election.
  16. NetCablesPlus TechSpot Maniac Posts: 480

    Some interesting comments on this thread. Let's start off with the realization that ANYONE who makes it to the top national tier of politics is extremely smart, ambitious, aggressive, political, cunning, savvy, and has great people skills. No way anyone would make it that far without at least those qualities. However, there is one thing that they are all focused on: POWER. It's not money, social causes, political beliefs, etc., that cause a person to go through what s/he (and their families) has to go through to get to that level in the game. Power corrupts and absoluter power corrupts absolutely. So, the best thing is to throw the bum out after one term and get in another bum. Gives them less time to aggrandize power and get corrupted. Government is basically evil due to this obsession with power by all politicians/bureaucrats and needs to be limited as much as possible. As Reagan famously quoted one time, "The biggest lie that you will ever hear is 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Go Libertarianism!
  17. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    This was already addressed, 3 times...actually reading the thread would help. Also, considering this thread was started 3 months ago,i would see why there may not be some listed.
  18. Po`Girl Newcomer, in training Posts: 668

    Removed by poster due to redundancy of query.
  19. twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,083

    Not sure what you mean..didn't see any italicization
  20. BlameCanada Newcomer, in training Posts: 357

    I think there could be a liberal bias here,because I`m guessing some
    non-Americans have voted,and non-Americans tend to be liberal.

    Without me Hillary would be down one,for instance. :p
    And po girl is "East of NYC" That could be commie Europe !!!!

    Is this a good point or wat ?