1 long 3 short (New System)

By silverwingz
Mar 7, 2008
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  1. Mobo: ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD
    (Out of the box, arrived yesterday)

    video card: Nvidia 7900 GS (new 4 months ago)

    PSU: Apevia 680w Beast Power (new 4 months ago)

    Ram: 4gigs G.SKILL (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800
    (out of the box, arrived yesterday)

    HDD: WD Raptor (2 years old)

    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2.4GHz Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core

    Processor
    (Out of the box, arrived yesterday)

    Bios: Award Bios (Old mobo, and new)


    Ok so heres the issue. a week ago I had an msi k8n neo4-f mobo in my

    case, with 1gig of ddr ram and an old socket939 single core processor. It

    stopped working a while back and would give me either no beep signal or a

    1 long 2 short beep signal, so I changed out the video card and it gave

    me the same signal. I figured it was time for a new mobo and along with

    it I would need a new cpu and new ram, so above is my current set up.

    after everything was installed its now giving me a 1 long 3 short bios

    code, which says that it is either the video card thats bad or the ram.

    So I switched out my video card again, and no luck (so I suppose I can

    rule out that.) I then took out the ram and inserted only one, no luck,

    so I changed that stick to another stick, and still no luck (kinda

    figured it wouldn't be the ram since its new and all.) this power supply

    is a great psu and has plenty of power to run whatever I need. At this

    point I think I have a computer ghost keeping me from running a good

    machine. =( If anyone has any ideas I would be more than happy to try

    them.
  2. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Strip your system down to nothing apart from the motherboard, CPU, one module of RAM (that you are confident is working), and your PSU. Detach and/or remove all other components and see if your machine will boot without any beeps. Gradually add things into the mix (starting with the VPU) and see how far you can get before it fails.

    One long three short is indeed either VPU or RAM related for Award BIOS.
  3. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    ok, with the PSU, CPU, and Mobo, im getting the beep signal 1 long 3 short. so its the same signal. (I think this is normal though, because the video card is unplugged.) what should I try next?
  4. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    I'm assuming you had the RAM in as well, and if you did, the only thing that it could be as far as I know is your RAM. Try a module from another PC that you are 100% sure works.
  5. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    bleh I cant =( my other computers are only ddr. so it could be a possibility that all 4 sticks of ram arrived doa?
  6. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Not likely at all, no, but the beeps point to your RAM/VPU and your VPU isn't even in the loop. You're sure you have the RAM seated all the way?

    Try leaving on module of RAM in, your CPU, motherboard and PSU, clear the CMOS and try to boot again.

    If it's still giving the same beeps I would suspect something is wrong with your motherboard. Either you haven't connected/installed something properly, or it is just defective.
  7. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    im gonna go wiggle everything and make sure things are plugged in right. it is possible that the mobo is DOA. ok well brb
  8. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    ok so its still doing everything the same, after I secured everything. Just for curiousity, I took out the ram stick and turned it on and it gives me a weird beep signal of 1 long 2 short (pause) 1 long 2 short (pause) ..... repeating. I thought it was suppose to so 2 short (pause) 2 short (pause) repeating. could this indicate a bad mobo?
  9. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Quickly searched and came up with this:

  10. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    ya I saw that too, but does that apply if its repeating? I also looked at a different post that said that in order to clear the bios fully you had to set jumpers and stuff. I've never done that before, just poped the battery out. im gonna go try that now, brb
  11. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Refer to page 2-20 of your motherboard's manual for information on shorting out the CMOS via the jumper.
     
  12. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    ok so I reset the bios by setting the jumper and now im getting a different beep signal its 1 long 2 short (pause) 1 short. I have no idea what this is lol. Im off to google it now. any ideas?
  13. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    If you are 100% confident that everything is connected and installed properly, I would consider trying another motherboard.
  14. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    I am pretty sure its a Phoenix Award bios but this is what the normal Phoenix bios beep code says:
    1-3-1 You'll need to replace the motherboard.


    Edit: my bios's specific name : 4Mb AWARD BIOS, PnP, DMI, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3

    Edit 2: I dont have another ddr2 compliant mobo so I'd have to rma this one to get another one
  15. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    not sure if this could be a factor but there is a 12pin slot on my mobo for a power supply to it. The power supply I have only has a 10pin plug but it still fits in and locks in place. The last mobo I had did the same thing and worked fine. Im not sure if this mobo requires the full 12pin
  16. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Not sure what you are suggesting. Below is an image of your motherboard (I believe). I see two places to connect the PSU. The 24-pin main connector, and an additional 12v 4-pin connector. Your PSU has connectors for both of those. Please try to clarify what you're speaking of.

    [​IMG]
  17. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

  18. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Your PSU has a 20+4-pin connector. If you've only attached the 20-pin connector, attach the other 4-pin connector and try to boot again.
  19. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    I just realized that before you posted and tryed. it didnt work tho =(
    still getting the beeeep beep beep beep .. beep.


    (kick ***.. my last few posts bumped me to techspot member.. about time after 2 years
  20. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Welp, I'm not sure what else you can try. You've stripped the system down to nothing but the RAM, CPU, motherboard and PSU with no luck. Odds are, all four modules of RAM aren't bad as you noted, so it's obviously either your motherboard, CPU or PSU.

    I wouldn't bet on it being your PSU if you had used it in the previous system with no problem. Both CPU's and motherboards rarely croak, however, of the two I'd say motherboards are much higher on the list of probability. Try to RMA your motherboard unless someone else strolls through with some solid advice.

    Congratulations on your membership ;).
  21. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    Ok.. will do in the morning when I get up. Thanx for helping me. usually people just post a little something that doesn't work and then I never hear from them again. lol. ok well im off to sleep, its 3:12am here
  22. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    :( Sorry to hear that. Sometimes if someone is already attempting to help a person, others will keep away from the thread unless it's going down a path which they feel isn't correct. If the person who was initially helping has run out of ideas and stops posting, it's easy for your thread to get buried by countless others within a few hours, never to be seen again.

    Good luck with getting it replaced, maybe someone will post during the time that you're asleep with an idea. If it turns out to be a faulty motherboard, be sure to post back and let us know :).

    I wish I could sleep, 4:14AM here and I am just finishing up laundry :(.
  23. Gavin_Capacitor

    Gavin_Capacitor Newcomer, in training Posts: 81

    Um... If you don't have a video card installed the computer wont boot and it will give the video card error.
  24. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    You sure on that Gavin? I've never had an issue starting a PC without VPU installed. Granted, there was no display, but they'd still start etc.
  25. silverwingz

    silverwingz Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 82

    reguardless it cant be the video card because ive tried 3 different video cards with the system and I get the same error. so anyways im gonna go rma it now.
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