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19" inch monitor, which make?

Discussion in 'Audio and Video' started by Arris, Mar 1, 2002.

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svtcobra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 875

Re: 3dFx is not good!(4 gaming)

Originally posted by ---agissi---
3dFx is not good for gamming. There only good for video editing,etc. Voodoo5 VS Geforce2: OK>GeF2! You should have 17 inch least 4 gamming, 15=to big dot pitch.

*edited by moderator

i agree that a 15" monitor is kinda small for gaming but whats up with the Voodoo 5 bashing?

svtcobra, Mar 6, 2002

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---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,369 +9

Voodoo

The Voodoos really arnt all that great for gamming. Your better with Nvidia or ATI. Im not dissing 3DFX, I mean, there a great comp.and their cards are superb for rendering video and such, but not so much for games. Why have dual GPUs? Its not worth it(ie why some <new> Gf2 didnt have one or the GF3 dont have them). Thats more for rendering and such,think about it, would games even be able to use the Dual GPUs, or could the card take care of it? Just think you'd be way better of with nVidia or ATI for gamming...:rolleyes: /:blush:
I luv the faces:
uke: LOL!
:hotouch: <HOT-TOUCH>

---agissi---, Mar 6, 2002

#22
ldogg Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

I picked myself up a sweet 19" Envision at Fry's here in the States. Cost me only 120 USD after the rebate. It's like the cheapest 19" that I've ever seen, but hey I'd take it over a little 15" $500 flat screen anyday.

ldogg, Mar 6, 2002

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Xerak Newcomer, in training Posts: 24

I have a Sony 19 monitor and I would recommend it to anyone. Iva had it for a few years now and its still like new. The Sony monitors have very conservative brightness options to ensure youll never need to up the brightness and contrast to 100/100.
Sony monitors own

Xerak, Mar 7, 2002

#24
Th3M1ghtyD8 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 794

Seen as though NVIDIA own 3DFX now, anyone who buys a GF4 will be using 3DFX antialiasing.

Th3M1ghtyD8, Mar 7, 2002

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Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,307 +17

Originally posted by Th3M1ghtyD8
Seen as though NVIDIA own 3DFX now, anyone who buys a GF4 will be using 3DFX antialiasing.

Yup. I think thats the main reason that Nvidia (owned partly by Microsoft) obtained 3DFX. The Voodoo5 still has crisper AA than pre-Geforce4 cards...

Arris, Mar 7, 2002

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---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,369 +9

Couple things...(1) I have a 19' FLAT-SCREEN moniter (2) NVidia dont own '3DFX', they bought the comp, took '3DFX's best ppl, and then threw the company in the trash. The dont exist anymore(well, this is to my understanding ).

---agissi---, Mar 7, 2002

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svtcobra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 875

Originally posted by Arris

Yup. I think thats the main reason that Nvidia (owned partly by Microsoft) obtained 3DFX. The Voodoo5 still has crisper AA than pre-Geforce4 cards...

If the GF4 is using Voodoo 5 AA technology I will buy one. I need to get some hardcore proof on this though..Has anyone seen this posted anywhere? I will happily spend the money to get that AA quality.

svtcobra, Mar 7, 2002

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Whack0 Newcomer, in training Posts: 169

Originally posted by svtcobra

If the GF4 is using Voodoo 5 AA technology I will buy one. I need to get some hardcore proof on this though..Has anyone seen this posted anywhere? I will happily spend the money to get that AA quality.

The GF4 uses Accuview Antialiasing (tm) (of course, you knew that ).... which is supposedly "new and innovative AA technology [that] provides the best visual quality possible without a performance hit." (you knew that too ).

...It's "new" technology, so I don't think it's Voodoo 5's. If it did use V5's, then it should be big news (and all you computer junkies would know already ).

Whack0, Mar 7, 2002

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boeingfixer Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,245

Samsung

I bought a Samsung SyncMaster 950p 3 years ago and it has performed flawlessly. It is still availible and still one of the best you can buy. If it ever dies, I am going to buy another one just like it. It is of the 19" size.

Talk to you all later

Boeingfixer

boeingfixer, Mar 7, 2002

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svtcobra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 875

Originally posted by Whack0

The GF4 uses Accuview Antialiasing (tm) (of course, you knew that ).... which is supposedly "new and innovative AA technology [that] provides the best visual quality possible without a performance hit." (you knew that too ).

...It's "new" technology, so I don't think it's Voodoo 5's. If it did use V5's, then it should be big news (and all you computer junkies would know already ).

Thats what I figured Whack0..Thanks for confirming it. I remember reading awhile back that future Nvidia cards were going to be using 3DFx technology. They hinted toward it being the AA aspect of the 3DFx technology. I was hoping that is was here but it would have been big news...

svtcobra, Mar 7, 2002

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Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,307 +17

Originally posted by Whack0

The GF4 uses Accuview Antialiasing (tm) (of course, you knew that ).... which is supposedly "new and innovative AA technology [that] provides the best visual quality possible without a performance hit." (you knew that too ).

...It's "new" technology, so I don't think it's Voodoo 5's. If it did use V5's, then it should be big news (and all you computer junkies would know already ).

Well don't you think since they acquired the company's technology and R&D when they bought them out when they went under that they would have used the AA technology of 3dfx which is/was superior to theirs rather than develop something of the same standard. They will have at least based their AA technology on what they have from 3dfx or at least ripped it to bits to find out how it was done. I will have a look around the net but I am sure that you will find that they have made use of what they gained from the death of 3dfx....

Arris, Mar 8, 2002

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Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,307 +17

Tomshardware roundup of 19" monitors including my 957DF Samsung bargain.

But three of them stand out. The Iiayama Vision Master Pro 454 turned out to be a really pleasant surprise, with outstanding image quality and stability. We are accustomed to this manufacturer providing an attractive quality/ price ratio, but sometimes to the detriment of quality. With the Vision Master Pro 454, they have combined a cost advantage with an intelligent adaptation of the Diamontron High Brightness tube. Right along side it is the ViewSonic P95f, at the same price and with the same outstanding image quality and stability. The third member of this group is the highly efficient Eizo T675, which has very few failings and stands out by the ergonomics of its settings, even though its high price is a bit sinful.

Then there are the other monitors in the test. All are satisfactory and distinguished by their own special features. The Sony A420, for instance, could easily take the place of a television in a living room. The performance of the FP955 speaks for itself, it's just a shame it is somewhat costlier than the others. And Samsung's SyncMaster 957DF is the champion money-saver at the lowest price in the test. Its quality is perfectly adequate and it could be a good choice for those who don't want to put too much strain on their wallet.

Maybe I should have splashed out the extra £100 for the Iiyama that I was originally considering....

Arris, Mar 19, 2002

#33
SuperCheetah Newcomer, in training Posts: 868

Hey I have a Samsung 955DF. What is the difference between mine and your monitor, Arris?

SuperCheetah, Mar 19, 2002

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Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,307 +17

Numbering for European market probably.
US: 955DF
UK: 957DF

The 957 does 1920 x 1440 @ 64Hz, 30-96 KHz
while the 955 does 1600x1200@65Hz, 30-85 KHz

Arris, Mar 19, 2002

#35
SuperCheetah Newcomer, in training Posts: 868

Dangit, you got me Well, I'm happy with my monitor!!!

SuperCheetah, Mar 19, 2002

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Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,307 +17

If your not using any higher resolutions then you don't need a better monitor. I was playing Project Eden a few weeks back at 2048x1024 and I didn't notice any flickering...

You have to pair up the monitor to the graphics card you have (or plan on having). My GF3 was restricted because I was using a generic cheap and nasty 17" monitor. This meant I had to disable v-sync to get higher framerates (not that I needed them), now I don't need to. We have Dell Trinitron monitors at work with flat screens and I was just fed up with trying to avoid reflections and glare with my home monitor so upgraded for £250, plus I am selling my old monitor to a mate for £50. Not bad in the UK for a 19" Flat screen monitor....

Arris, Mar 19, 2002

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Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916 +9

I'm glad I'm not limited to Window$ fixed resolutions.. I can tweak out the max from my monitor in BeOS & Linux! Manual says max refresh rate @ 1600 x 1200 is 75 Hz, I got 78.4 . It does make a noticeable difference to me.

Mictlantecuhtli, Mar 19, 2002

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---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,369 +9

some CrAzY resolutions...and yeah right, you wouldnt notice a increase of 3.8 or whateva in your moniter refresh rate!:rolleyes:

---agissi---, Mar 19, 2002

#39
Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916 +9

Originally posted by ---agissi---
yeah right, you wouldnt notice a increase of 3.8 or whateva in your moniter refresh rate!:rolleyes:

Some people don't mind using 60 Hz refresh rate. Some do. Some have better vision, some poorer. People are different. Monitors are different. Lighting might be different.
75 Hz or less starts to hurt my eyes quite quickly if I don't turn contrast down. That's something I don't want to do. Sure, I could use 1280 x 1024 @ 85 but I want a bigger desktop.

Mictlantecuhtli, Mar 20, 2002

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