[continued from previous thread...] Oh boy, I'm sorry guys, I didn't mean to ramble on this long. I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, I just wanted an exposition of what I personally believe, and what my definition of Christianity is. One should never blame Christianity where blame should rest on an individual. For Christianity is not a harmful thing, it teaches to love your enemy, pray for those who spitefully use you. Even the "golden rule" is written within its pages. Christianity is also full of charity, very giving. Christ taught, give food to the hungry, water to the thirsty, clothes to the naked, shelter to the homeless, and so forth. A true Christian is ever watchful where he can give and minister and share Christ. Since Christ taught, and most know, whatever you "make" on this earth, you can't take it with you. A Christians life should not be worldly or materialistic. In fact, it is basically impossible to live the perfect Christian life, which is the very reason for Christ's coming in the first place. Christianity is much MUCH deeper then most think. Most people just hear Christians whining about gay marriage or abortion, and most people roll their eyes every time they here "we hate the sin, not the person" talk. But a Christian's goal to reach other people for Christ is strongly taught, mainly in the "great commission", to go out and preach the gospel to the world. The Bible teaches against homosexuality and abortion etc... therefore it is big on the list of things to fight against. To strive for holiness, and those things are not holy. We've already seen the damage they can do to society within our borders and without. But that isn't the point, the point is that, as Spike said about the mountain, you have to climb UP to get there. You have to become better and better, you have to grow. A Christians life, if they are truly saved by the blood of Jesus, should always be growing, washing out the sins, killing the old habits, living a new life in Christ. I hope this wasn't overkill, again, I just wanted to share my thoughts, don't want to "force" anything on anybody, I'm not doing an alter call, not saying what everybody thinks is false. Just want to share what I think and believe. My own personal belief, which I happen to think is Christian, and Bible-based. Hope this doesn't change what people think about me I'm still a PC nerd on the surface, and I try not to let these kinds of thoughts go where they don't belong, such as on a tech forum. But I see Christianity under attack so much, when really it should be the person. Pilate found no fault in Jesus, and so no man should find fault with written Christian behavior. But they can find fault, with the individual who has failed that perfect behavior, and done something they shouldn't. So often Christianity is blamed on somebodies failure. It saddens me, the lack of faith of many professing "Christians". They say they are so, but deny half the truth of the Bible. I've said my piece. I'm not looking for an argument and I don't want to spend the rest of my life debating in this thread. As all should know, these different religions and faiths go so much deeper and get so much more involved then what could ever be discussed like this. So just take what I said as my personal belief, and be done. No need to fight with me cause you won't change me and I won't change you. I only hope what I've talked about just gives you some more insight into the Christian way of thinking, at least, my Christian way of thinking, as I am aware in my current "walk" up the mountain. Good night everybody. Truly sorry for the lengthly posting, didn't realize I typed more then 25000+ characters. As I said, way to much to talk about, I barely made a tiny scratch in the surface of the issue.