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4chan hacks Egyptian, Yemen government websites

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  1. Emil Newcomer, in training Posts: 154

    4Chan's users, who call themselves "Anonymous," hacked Egyptian and Yemen government websites this week. About 500 Anonymous participants took down websites for the Egyptian Ministry of Information and the ruling National Democratic Party in Egypt. For Yemen, the websites targeted included the Yemeni Ministry of Information, the tax office, and the website for Yemen's long-serving president, Ali Abdullah Saleh.

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  2. andreasf93 Newcomer, in training Posts: 25

    Nice, nice.
  3. TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,964   +134

    Can't say as I approve. Not debating the where's and why's of the government riots, Wikileaks, whatever. But who appointed 4chan to be judge, jury and executioner? To select whomever their anarchist views fit their ego needs to conduct cyber attacks?

    They keep it up and it's only a matter of time where their activities will result in physical harm - if not the death - of innocent people because websites people rely on for their safety and/or livelihood will be gone.
  4. When will people learn that 4chan and Anonymous are not interchangeable? Lots of overlap is not the same as being a single group.
  5. princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,715

    Actually we don't overlap much anymore. Anyone with technical skills moved to other Chan's. If you think Anonymous is synonymous with 4chan(aka Tom and Emil) then you need to learn more about it.

    EDIT: Anonymous is synonymous I swear that rhyme wasn't intentional.
  6. Fair enough. I run solo, so I don't know the board dynamics well beyond the facts that they're not at all the same and 99% of 4chan couldn't hack through a chicken with a cleaver, let alone take on the Egyptian gov't.
     
  7. DokkRokken Newcomer, in training Posts: 275

    It's not really even 'hacking' so much as it's just Denial of Service for Dummies. I wish media organizations would at least differentiate the two, but DoS is just less sensational. LOIC makes it easy for any /b/tard to just copy the necessary parameters from a thread, hit 'CHARGIN' MAH LAZER' and go back to fappin' and F5'n.

    I'm on the fence with this sort of thing. All things considered, it is relatively effective at getting media attention which is good, I suppose. But if it gets done too often, it'll probably lose whatever impact it has.
  8. Didn't mean to imply this was hacking per se; further noting the difference between the two.

    And this is really the wrong kind of media attention to be getting. Great when you expose someone or pay them back - brings more attention to the problem. Egypt has been in the press enough that they didn't need more attention, and the pro-democracy people don't need any associations with people knocking out sites.
  9. DokkRokken Newcomer, in training Posts: 275

    That is a good point. Actions like this just add gas to an already incendiary situation. I wouldn't be surprised if people who support these regimes would claim that these DDoS attacks are merely the West interfering, and then going on to use the attacks as a rallying cry against the pro-democracy/anti-regime protesters.
  10. Trillionsin TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 888   +10

    better call the cyber police because consequences will never be the same.
  11. Obi-Wan Jerkobi TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 592

    4chan has always felt the need to take action in any way they can (a really crappy packet flurry).
  12. princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,715

    I give up. You all are so convinced that Anon and 4chan are the same that I won't even bother again explaining why that isn't correct.

    Stop acting like a bunch of people who post porn and hit F5 are the ones organizing this.
  13. Organization and participation are not the same thing. So what if the anons coordinating the specifics of the attack on IRC are not self-professed /b/tards? Most of the kids charging their lazers probably heard about the raid on a chan. Anonymous still relies on the crowdsourcing power of 4chan and /b/ to get things done.
  14. Anonymous is not a group
    Anonymous has no body
    Anonymous is anybody
  15. princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,715

    So? If anonymous is the puppet master employing teenagers to DDoS sites then that keeps them out of the line of fire. That's unbelievably intelligent orchestration of a DDoS attack.
  16. jmjsquared TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 143

    Who decides?

    Isn't the whole Egyptian "revolution" about the abuse of power?
    Isn't any group which operates in the shadows under its own mandate, is answerable to no one and attacks any other person or entity to be repudiated? Isn't that the same hubris and arrogance that the Egyptian people are challenging?

    Resistance, sometimes even violent (cyber or physical) resistance, is justified and just. But, who decides? I submit that choice is not for outsiders to make.

    I'm just saying.
  17. Trillionsin TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 888   +10

    I could see that some people may actually LOG OUT of techspot.com to post as a guest to be anonymous in this discussion. lolol.

    Read a good point here though.

  18. MaXtor Newcomer, in training Posts: 90

    Let the kids play.
  19. Trillionsin TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 888   +10

    Dont you think that repeated attacks, as silly as they are, will just cause more awareness, ultimately causing more control, changing laws, and restricting our freedom of speak via internet, just cause kids want to play?

    I could be way off... but I do know that things change after repeated attacks, and this is no different.

    Anon wont be so Anon when you cant proxy anymore. So, I did just pull that out of my ***, but the point is still valid whether or not you can still use a proxy, or whether or not your ISP tracks everything you go, download, upload, and so on.

    This is why we cant have nice things. LOL

    Please feel free to attack and criticize my comment guys. This is only opinion, I'm not highly educated in this area.
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