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5700 vs 9800

By bkaa
Mar 21, 2004
  1. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    :eek: :eek: Yes i did have an Nvidia card before.....damn it, i will do that tonight when i got home. For a while i was convinced that my motherboard wouldnt wanna recognize the AGP slot. But now i see that i must first UNINSTALL the old drivers. Well today im gonna format my computer. I hope it works out :confused:
     
  2. werty316

    werty316 TS Rookie Posts: 246

    it should and good luck. You don't need to format if you don't want to by the way. I hate doing that because I have to install everything.
     
  3. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    Ok phew, can that explain why it reports as a PCI device? Because my existing video card was PCI...
     
  4. werty316

    werty316 TS Rookie Posts: 246

  5. j0nstaR

    j0nstaR TS Rookie Posts: 16

    what is a rendering pipeline, and what does it do?
     
  6. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    Man i give up on this damn card, im doing everything i can to fix it and this aint working out well. I am disappointed in this card, i did everything, installed all new drivers for the card and AGP slot, all new chipset drivers, there is no drivers for my existing card. I am gonna return it for another card....im thinking a 5900XT Nvidia....:rolleyes:
     
  7. novicegamer

    novicegamer TS Rookie Posts: 119

    In bios did you switch it to AGP?.I also switched from n-videa to ati and had alot of problems.Just take your time and you will get it sorted out.You have a good card
     
  8. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    Ok, and how would i be able to switch to AGP? That i did not do.........
     
  9. snowman

    snowman TS Rookie Posts: 312

    it should have swiitched that on its own. but if it didnt that might be the problem. before you return it i would try reformatting. that would probably fix the whole thing. what messed you up imo was not uninstalling the nvidia drivers first. or if you must buy a new card i recommend spending the $20 more or so for the 9800pro. i think it would be a better choice then the 5900xt.
     
  10. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    I have formatted my computer already with all new updates and its still giving me the same thing, I honestly dont know what to do. Im gonna most likely return this card, i am very disappointed, i tried everything i can, and it still wont work properly. Im considering of getting a Nvidia over a ATI, any suggestions?
     
  11. snowman

    snowman TS Rookie Posts: 312

    duno, you reformatted since you put in the card? i just installed my 9800 pro ( I LOVE IT, ITS LIKE A WHOLE NEW WORLD!) on a fresh copy of windows and it works just fine. i have no idea why it wont work for you. if fast write is on turn that off. try an older set of drivers, or the newest ones.
     
     
  12. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    I seriously tried everyyyyything, and its still slow and slugish. :( :(
     
  13. snowman

    snowman TS Rookie Posts: 312

    could be the hard drive? mine doesnt like to be set at master. even though it is the master drive. or its sluggish. i have to have it on cable select for it to run right.
     
  14. rad_radio_usa

    rad_radio_usa TS Rookie

    I would buy the 5700
    Not because its a faster card... or its got more pixel pipelines
    but because you just cant beat nVidia's driver support and card stability.
    I owned nVidia cards ever since i had my first geforce (geforce 1 16mb)
    and have owned them ever since... until i bought my 9500 last year
    ever since then I have had a number of incapatability problems with games. a hundred system crashes(maybe more), all the drivers just suck nuts. they sometimes dont even fix what they claim. and they take too long to get them out
    High performance card but I am disatisfyed with my Radeon
    GET THE 5700 DUDE or better yet get a 5900 XT for about 200 bucks. worth the money and still fast enough to run any game out right now.
    I could be wrong though 9800 pro could be a stable card... but
    i have heard differently with many many many disgruntled ATI customers. (several being my many brothers that own the cards)

    I myself am ordering a 5900 XT 128mb next week because the benchmarks blow the 9500 i bought out of the water. plus its the same price that my card is :D kinda weird.
     
  15. HermosaBeach

    HermosaBeach TS Rookie

    Sorry Steg, according to what I have been reading on the web, the ATI Radeon X800 Pro (public name for the R420) is going to have 12 pipelines, but the ATI Radeon XT shall have 16 pipelines and shall go on sale May 31st.

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2018

    I sure hope NVidia doesn't screw up like last time. I hope they improve their picture quality problems and continue to give ATI a run for their money. Rumor also have it that ATI is launching with all 16 pipelines turned on in order to compete with NVidia. News like this is good for all of us, whether you are die hard NVidian fan boy or ATI fan boy, or like me, just want the fastest card available with awesome picture quality.

    Dave
     
  16. bkaa

    bkaa TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    Yes, i made the mistake of buying the 9600XT, although i returned it and got my 5700 ULtra, and i will say its one hell of a stable card, compared to the 9600XT, im keeping this :grinthumb
     
  17. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,601   +110

    I've had both a 9700 Pro and a 9800 non pro and not had a single problem with either. My Asus Geforce3 was another matter though :S
     
  18. Godataloss

    Godataloss TS Rookie Posts: 501

    How about a card that doesnt cost a whole nut and isnt obsolete in 6 months? component video outputs would also be nice.
     
  19. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,356   +283

    I've owned several nVidia and ATI cards and to be honest, haven't had many problems with either. I think they're both stable cards and the biggest problem lies in other incompatilities, both hardware and software. They both make great cards.
     
  20. BrownPaper

    BrownPaper TS Rookie Posts: 467

    i have had driver problems on my geforce4 ti4200. the computer would not boot into windows98se because the driver installed incorrectly and was causing a conflict. it took me a week to figure out what was going on. then when i was upgrading the machine to win2k, the card died and would only run at 640x480 at 8 bit color.

    i also had some problems with my older radeon card as well. both ATi and Nvidia need to do a better job with stability and compatibility in my book.
     
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