5700 vs 9800

Are you smoking crack? hands down the 9800 Pro wins the race.

Re: Re: 5700 vs 9800

No crack here man :rolleyes:

I just had to ask. You can get a 9800 Pro for around $210 at newegg. They have great prices. You should consider them.

Check it out here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...n=14-102-268&catalog=48&depa=1&refer=techsp0t

I already bought a 9600XT.....and as you can see, im having some problems with it

What vid card di you have before the XT? if it was an Nvidia crad make you uninstalled the drivers for that card. Use "Nasty File Remover" from guru3d.com if you have to to to delete any remaining drivers.

Yes i did have an Nvidia card before.....damn it, i will do that tonight when i got home. For a while i was convinced that my motherboard wouldnt wanna recognize the AGP slot. But now i see that i must first UNINSTALL the old drivers. Well today im gonna format my computer. I hope it works out

it should and good luck. You don't need to format if you don't want to by the way. I hate doing that because I have to install everything.

Ok phew, can that explain why it reports as a PCI device? Because my existing video card was PCI...

might be why.
Go To "Add/Remove Programs" in control panel and remove any NVidia display drivers. Then goto here:

http://rudz.frac.dk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=1

This program will ensure that no Nvidia driver related files are still installed. It is easy too use. Just open it up and choose what type of video card drivers you want to search for and delete.

what is a rendering pipeline, and what does it do?

Man i give up on this damn card, im doing everything i can to fix it and this aint working out well. I am disappointed in this card, i did everything, installed all new drivers for the card and AGP slot, all new chipset drivers, there is no drivers for my existing card. I am gonna return it for another card....im thinking a 5900XT Nvidia....:rolleyes:

In bios did you switch it to AGP?.I also switched from n-videa to ati and had alot of problems.Just take your time and you will get it sorted out.You have a good card

Ok, and how would i be able to switch to AGP? That i did not do.........

it should have swiitched that on its own. but if it didnt that might be the problem. before you return it i would try reformatting. that would probably fix the whole thing. what messed you up imo was not uninstalling the nvidia drivers first. or if you must buy a new card i recommend spending the $20 more or so for the 9800pro. i think it would be a better choice then the 5900xt.

I have formatted my computer already with all new updates and its still giving me the same thing, I honestly dont know what to do. Im gonna most likely return this card, i am very disappointed, i tried everything i can, and it still wont work properly. Im considering of getting a Nvidia over a ATI, any suggestions?

duno, you reformatted since you put in the card? i just installed my 9800 pro ( I LOVE IT, ITS LIKE A WHOLE NEW WORLD!) on a fresh copy of windows and it works just fine. i have no idea why it wont work for you. if fast write is on turn that off. try an older set of drivers, or the newest ones.

I seriously tried everyyyyything, and its still slow and slugish.

could be the hard drive? mine doesnt like to be set at master. even though it is the master drive. or its sluggish. i have to have it on cable select for it to run right.

I would buy the 5700
Not because its a faster card... or its got more pixel pipelines
but because you just cant beat nVidia's driver support and card stability.
I owned nVidia cards ever since i had my first geforce (geforce 1 16mb)
and have owned them ever since... until i bought my 9500 last year
ever since then I have had a number of incapatability problems with games. a hundred system crashes(maybe more), all the drivers just suck nuts. they sometimes dont even fix what they claim. and they take too long to get them out
High performance card but I am disatisfyed with my Radeon
GET THE 5700 DUDE or better yet get a 5900 XT for about 200 bucks. worth the money and still fast enough to run any game out right now.
I could be wrong though 9800 pro could be a stable card... but
i have heard differently with many many many disgruntled ATI customers. (several being my many brothers that own the cards)

I myself am ordering a 5900 XT 128mb next week because the benchmarks blow the 9500 i bought out of the water. plus its the same price that my card is kinda weird.

Sorry Steg, according to what I have been reading on the web, the ATI Radeon X800 Pro (public name for the R420) is going to have 12 pipelines, but the ATI Radeon XT shall have 16 pipelines and shall go on sale May 31st.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2018

I sure hope NVidia doesn't screw up like last time. I hope they improve their picture quality problems and continue to give ATI a run for their money. Rumor also have it that ATI is launching with all 16 pipelines turned on in order to compete with NVidia. News like this is good for all of us, whether you are die hard NVidian fan boy or ATI fan boy, or like me, just want the fastest card available with awesome picture quality.

Dave