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60 percent of gamers wouldn't buy a console that blocks used games

Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Shawn Knight, Feb 13, 2013.

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  1. Lurker101 TechSpot Booster Posts: 543   +64

    Well I currently have no plans to buy a console that blocks used games. It's thanks to the used game market that I've had some of the most fun on a console. When it comes to games that cost £40-£60, you're only going got buy the stuff you're completely sure you'll enjoy. You might not always be right and when you're not, the buyers remorse is pretty bad.
    If a game's only gonna set you back something like £10, you're more willing to take a risk, and your initial expectations are going to be set so high. Chances are, you'll either like the game or not be too bitterly upset by your purchase.
    I know it sounds silly, but I've enjoyed a much greater range of games than I would've without the second hand market.
  2. misor TechSpot Booster Posts: 373   +48

    ...nice idea there.:)
    cd keys are supposed to be bound to the gaming cd/dvd title bought so anyone can buy/sell their games.
    however, I have no idea how to manage (or sell) gaming titles bought through download.
  3. Scshadow TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 258   +15

    You've got to be kidding right? You are mostly paying a car company for the manufacturing of the product itself with a profit margin that includes taking care of design and other overhead. Once the car is bought, the company has been paid off for their services. Why the hell would they need to be paid again? Software on the other hand is a completely opposite dynamic. You aren't paying $60 for the production of the disk, you are mostly paying $60 for the development of the software stored on the disk. But that game didn't take $60 to develop, thats just your share of the development cost. The only way to fund software is to share the development cost between all users. But when gamestop resells a game who is paying that share to the developers? No wonder they charge $60.

    I still have issues with the video game industry price fixing the $60 price point but it can't be easy to deal with the issue of getting paid properly for your work in the software industry. What the game industry really needs to do is block the sale of used games and half the prices of games. Will they? Probably not. I'm not holding my breath. They are inherently greedy. But if they recover their costs quickly maybe they'll be more willing to reduce prices quicker.
  4. penn919 TechSpot Member Posts: 99

    I don't know about 60% , but the ones who can't afford to shell out $60 a pop won't have a choice but to change their habits. When I was a teen, my parents sure as hell didn't buy me video games. I had to buy them with my own money and I basically lived off used/borrowed games. Had I been forced to pay $60 a game I'm almost certain it would have pushed me away. Games are great, but I had a tank to fill.
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  5. TS-56336 TechSpot Booster Posts: 440   +67

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but for once, I'm on Gamestop's side...or rather, they're on my side. Maybe not for the same reasons, strange bedfellows, etc.
  6. madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 808

    I'd be first to not buy any new console because of nothing grabbing my attention... but then again, I've recently started playing some older PS1 games on my PS2 (since my PS3 can't play them) and a lot of those games were bought as "greatest hits" or used.

    I will admit though that a HUGE reason to buying the Wii was because of backwards compatibility with Gamecube. That was absolutely important for me back in '06/'07.
     
  7. I'm sure the author means that the results are probably biased towards GameStop because they would stand to gain from fixing those poll numbers a little.

    I wouldn't really say GameStop has any moral high ground. They take recently released games that are barely used and take off like $5. So they sell them at pretty much retail, but just enough under were people will buy them. I wouldn't call that moral.
  8. LukeDJ TechSpot Booster Posts: 316   +66

    If consoles aren't going to play used games, they had better lower their prices. I don't mind not having second hand game son the PC, because they are so much cheaper (and better!).
  9. I don't see why people are so up-in-arms about this. PC's have been doing this for a very long time, and they have no issue with it. Steam is by far the best way to get old games and they constantly have them dirt cheap. I myself would absolutely love to get a Steam-like program on consoles, because then used games would be much more reasonably priced than the current system of paying $5 less for a used copy of a game that has been out for over a year. Here's looking at you Bad Guy GameStop.
  10. Skidmarksdeluxe TechSpot Addict Posts: 649   +143

    If I owned a console & upgraded it to the newer gen & it didn't play the games I already had in my collection I wouldn't touch it. That being said, I wouldn't buy any gaming console anyway so I'm pretty indifferent. Playing used games in the PC world has been a no-no for years now & it doesn't bother me.
  11. Eliminating the used game market will mostly affect low income earners and also have a detrimental effect on the environment due to any said disk's ability to be recycled either as a sold item or hand me down.
  12. Hell no I wouldn't buy a game console that won't play used games. If I already bought the game, why should I have to pay for the game again if a console maker offers it? Microsoft, Sony, and a few of the game makers are turning game playing into a big ripoff. It's one thing to stop piracy, it's another thing to expect the customer to pay for the same thing more than once.
  13. Skidmarksdeluxe TechSpot Addict Posts: 649   +143

    Do you really think console makers care about the low income earner? As long as they make astronomical profits, can own mansions, condo's, fancy cars, designer clothes & sparkly jewellery who cares about them. Their motto is "We'll milk the suckers for all they're worth". The fancy term is 'consumerism".
  14. Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,082   +88

    So, here's a question to ponder... Wonder how many of that "60% of customers" polled would buy a new gen console if rentals were blocked, but all titles were half the price?

    In theory, blockage of rentals should be a huge boost in licensing fees that the console manufacturers will be receiving, and a dramatic increase in potential profits for the developers... If they put that money back into the ecosystem and made games much more affordable, it might be interesting. But, you can pretty much guarantee the prices would remain high and the console companies would just be stuffing all that extra money in their pockets.
  15. Trillionsin TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 895   +11

    60 percent? I'm sure that once console gamers really know the details, that number would increase to somewhere around 90 percent.... because I'm guessing about 98 percent of gamers have played used games, either by borrowing from a friend or rental.
  16. m4a4 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 322   +66

    I don't know about you, but some of my favorite games I bought used because they are from my childhood. And I still buy the occasional used game (or rent the occasional game) so I know that I am 100% opposed.
    So as I have said before (even if this is biased or not), the new consoles will not block used games. ~60% of gamers is a lot of people, and the companies know that their consoles will not be successful if they do this.
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  17. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    Disclosure that used games may be blocked should be mandatory, and in red bold letters, when you buy both a used console, and/or a used game. People should be prevented from going home with their newly acquired goods only to find out they've been owned by [insert your brand here].
  18. CDWhenry Newcomer, in training

    I have three kids, I have always bought used games, since I don't have the 59.99 or 69.99 dollars to through around on a new game, I will wait six months a buy a used copy, If the new game systems are going to block used games, Then my kids will have to learn to play on the PC.
  19. If they go ahead with eliminating used games from consoles, it's also going to kill the 'Try before you buy' market. alot of video rental stores rent console games.
  20. Ma_ga Newcomer, in training Posts: 34

    The console is going to sell, no matter what the poll say, when they see that both consoles have this "feature", People will bend over, and so apply jelly and "enjoy the ride" like always.