60 percent of gamers wouldn't buy a console that blocks used games

By Shawn Knight
Feb 13, 2013
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  1. madboyv1

    madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 905   +36

    I'd be first to not buy any new console because of nothing grabbing my attention... but then again, I've recently started playing some older PS1 games on my PS2 (since my PS3 can't play them) and a lot of those games were bought as "greatest hits" or used.

    I will admit though that a HUGE reason to buying the Wii was because of backwards compatibility with Gamecube. That was absolutely important for me back in '06/'07.
  2. I'm sure the author means that the results are probably biased towards GameStop because they would stand to gain from fixing those poll numbers a little.

    I wouldn't really say GameStop has any moral high ground. They take recently released games that are barely used and take off like $5. So they sell them at pretty much retail, but just enough under were people will buy them. I wouldn't call that moral.
  3. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 413   +110

    If consoles aren't going to play used games, they had better lower their prices. I don't mind not having second hand game son the PC, because they are so much cheaper (and better!).
  4. I don't see why people are so up-in-arms about this. PC's have been doing this for a very long time, and they have no issue with it. Steam is by far the best way to get old games and they constantly have them dirt cheap. I myself would absolutely love to get a Steam-like program on consoles, because then used games would be much more reasonably priced than the current system of paying $5 less for a used copy of a game that has been out for over a year. Here's looking at you Bad Guy GameStop.
  5. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 2,188   +510

    If I owned a console & upgraded it to the newer gen & it didn't play the games I already had in my collection I wouldn't touch it. That being said, I wouldn't buy any gaming console anyway so I'm pretty indifferent. Playing used games in the PC world has been a no-no for years now & it doesn't bother me.
  6. Eliminating the used game market will mostly affect low income earners and also have a detrimental effect on the environment due to any said disk's ability to be recycled either as a sold item or hand me down.
  7. Hell no I wouldn't buy a game console that won't play used games. If I already bought the game, why should I have to pay for the game again if a console maker offers it? Microsoft, Sony, and a few of the game makers are turning game playing into a big ripoff. It's one thing to stop piracy, it's another thing to expect the customer to pay for the same thing more than once.
  8. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 2,188   +510

    Do you really think console makers care about the low income earner? As long as they make astronomical profits, can own mansions, condo's, fancy cars, designer clothes & sparkly jewellery who cares about them. Their motto is "We'll milk the suckers for all they're worth". The fancy term is 'consumerism".
  9. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,259   +216

    So, here's a question to ponder... Wonder how many of that "60% of customers" polled would buy a new gen console if rentals were blocked, but all titles were half the price?

    In theory, blockage of rentals should be a huge boost in licensing fees that the console manufacturers will be receiving, and a dramatic increase in potential profits for the developers... If they put that money back into the ecosystem and made games much more affordable, it might be interesting. But, you can pretty much guarantee the prices would remain high and the console companies would just be stuffing all that extra money in their pockets.
  10. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TechSpot Booster Posts: 997   +36

    60 percent? I'm sure that once console gamers really know the details, that number would increase to somewhere around 90 percent.... because I'm guessing about 98 percent of gamers have played used games, either by borrowing from a friend or rental.
  11. m4a4

    m4a4 TechSpot Addict Posts: 477   +117

    I don't know about you, but some of my favorite games I bought used because they are from my childhood. And I still buy the occasional used game (or rent the occasional game) so I know that I am 100% opposed.
    So as I have said before (even if this is biased or not), the new consoles will not block used games. ~60% of gamers is a lot of people, and the companies know that their consoles will not be successful if they do this.
    AdamantianGilga likes this.
  12. Duckula22

    Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 55

    Disclosure that used games may be blocked should be mandatory, and in red bold letters, when you buy both a used console, and/or a used game. People should be prevented from going home with their newly acquired goods only to find out they've been owned by [insert your brand here].
  13. CDWhenry

    CDWhenry Newcomer, in training

    I have three kids, I have always bought used games, since I don't have the 59.99 or 69.99 dollars to through around on a new game, I will wait six months a buy a used copy, If the new game systems are going to block used games, Then my kids will have to learn to play on the PC.
     
  14. If they go ahead with eliminating used games from consoles, it's also going to kill the 'Try before you buy' market. alot of video rental stores rent console games.
  15. Ma_ga

    Ma_ga Newcomer, in training Posts: 39

    The console is going to sell, no matter what the poll say, when they see that both consoles have this "feature", People will bend over, and so apply jelly and "enjoy the ride" like always.
  16. cmbjive

    cmbjive TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 358   +53

    I believe you missed the point of the other respondent's post.
  17. Duckula22

    Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 55

    In WA if you buy a motorcycle the state gets 9% (approx sales tax), and if you sell the motorcycle later on the state gets 9% again. Life's not fair. Why should a hammer be treated differently from a piece of software when it comes to resell rights? Nobody thinks it's wrong the hammer manufacturer doesn't get a slice when a used hammer is sold/bought a second, third, fourth time and so on, but man, do we ever make a big deal out of exactly the same thing if it's software what's being sold/bought. If I buy a hammer the hammer's mine, if I buy a piece of software (a game for instance) that piece of software's mine, and if mechanisms are in place to sort of prevent me from really owning something even after paying for it, then I'm not f'n buying their krap.
  18. Cota

    Cota TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 521   +8

    They will buy it and will buy the new games, such a waste of time to discuss this, after all most of gamers that use console wouldn't understand the PC gaming or would like it.
  19. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,092   +724

    ^this... my friend got a console and all he buys is used games because he doesnt want to spend much on games. This is probably true with others also so this decision will stink. but I guess someone has to do it since in the future there will be no such things as CDs and DVDs and therefore no more "used".
  20. NTAPRO

    NTAPRO TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 783   +85

    You sure? The latest ps3 models I've tried all play ps1 games. I've seen it posted in a lot of places that newer models can play ps1 games but not ps2.
    madboyv1 likes this.
  21. Rippleman

    Rippleman TechSpot Member Posts: 76

    As is it stands right now, yes, you are correct. As soon as this concept goes to market, the ULA will be updated to deal with your "purchase" and you will no longer own it but license it.
  22. madboyv1

    madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 905   +36

    Holy crap, you're right. I just checked it with Crash Banticoot 2. I still have a number of PS2 games I put time into now and then so my position doesn't change much, but many thanks for the information. =)

    Since they're halting production of PS2s in most countries they should totally put out a firmware update to add back PS2 playback in software emulation mode, just so they can say they did it "for the fans." Considering their recent track record, they could use some more player support. Plus it could open up people to buying PS2 games from the playstation store. Sounds like a win-win to me, even if the emulation is far from perfect.
  23. Duckula22

    Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 55

    I reserve the right to apply patches and cracks that give me back my rights, regardless of what them manufacturers may want to impose on us. For instance, only now that I know that the latest iOS has been jailbroken, only now I would dare to buy a device with iOS, now that I know I can make it truly mine, despite of what Apple may want. Same goes for SONY's stuff, I'd much rather wait until someone cracks the krap out of all DRM and lock-ins, etc.., all the baddies.
  24. AdamantianGilga

    AdamantianGilga Newcomer, in training

    You are not thinking what if you buy the game for someone or you buy the game to check out how it plays you do and now you are completely screwed now you cannot return as the game is now dead and also some cannot buy the game at that time and the game sells out and no more is shipped they can bye off the net but have to pay shipping which makes it cost more or someone learns about the game from a friend and finds out it is a couple years old and they cannot buy the game except from the internet and the ones selling it jack up the prices making you have to pay more! Most games play a new game and sell it off when they are done to get back money to buy another new game take that away and games for that system will drop as no one wants to drop 60 dollars into a game that ends!
  25. AdamantianGilga

    AdamantianGilga Newcomer, in training

    One thing to remember when the PS3 came out how many people complained as they had games from the PS2 that they played over and over again but the PS2 died out and no new ones could be gotten but only used and they were sometimes not play the game! I had a PS2 and a game had a glitch point and would lock up I got 4 or 5 of the same game and still messed up there I tried to get a new PS2 but none where to buy here and so I am screwed there as the PS3 will not play the PS2 but I have found out they will play PS1 games and I am happy about that! Another thing is your game system gets damaged or something kills it and you buy a new one and already a lot of money gone but all the games you had is now used and cannot be played some finished and want to play again others are not you would have to hunt to buy all the games you had and that would be thousands of dollars gone also what if you buy the game for someone or you buy the game to check out how it plays you do and now you are completely screwed now you cannot return as the game is now dead and also some cannot buy the game at that time and the game sells out and no more is shipped they can bye off the net but have to pay shipping which makes it cost more or someone learns about the game from a friend and finds out it is a couple years old and they cannot buy the game except from the internet and the ones selling it jack up the prices making you have to pay more! Most games play a new game and sell it off when they are done to get back money to buy another new game take that away and games for that system will drop as no one wants to drop 60 dollars into a game that ends!


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