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60 percent of gamers wouldn't buy a console that blocks used games

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  1. cmbjive TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 187   +17

    I believe you missed the point of the other respondent's post.
  2. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 43

    In WA if you buy a motorcycle the state gets 9% (approx sales tax), and if you sell the motorcycle later on the state gets 9% again. Life's not fair. Why should a hammer be treated differently from a piece of software when it comes to resell rights? Nobody thinks it's wrong the hammer manufacturer doesn't get a slice when a used hammer is sold/bought a second, third, fourth time and so on, but man, do we ever make a big deal out of exactly the same thing if it's software what's being sold/bought. If I buy a hammer the hammer's mine, if I buy a piece of software (a game for instance) that piece of software's mine, and if mechanisms are in place to sort of prevent me from really owning something even after paying for it, then I'm not f'n buying their krap.
  3. Cota TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 520   +8

    They will buy it and will buy the new games, such a waste of time to discuss this, after all most of gamers that use console wouldn't understand the PC gaming or would like it.
  4. JC713 TechSpot Guru Posts: 2,756   +203

    ^this... my friend got a console and all he buys is used games because he doesnt want to spend much on games. This is probably true with others also so this decision will stink. but I guess someone has to do it since in the future there will be no such things as CDs and DVDs and therefore no more "used".
  5. NTAPRO TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 579   +44

    You sure? The latest ps3 models I've tried all play ps1 games. I've seen it posted in a lot of places that newer models can play ps1 games but not ps2.
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  6. Rippleman TechSpot Member Posts: 75

    As is it stands right now, yes, you are correct. As soon as this concept goes to market, the ULA will be updated to deal with your "purchase" and you will no longer own it but license it.
     
  7. madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 807

    Holy crap, you're right. I just checked it with Crash Banticoot 2. I still have a number of PS2 games I put time into now and then so my position doesn't change much, but many thanks for the information. =)

    Since they're halting production of PS2s in most countries they should totally put out a firmware update to add back PS2 playback in software emulation mode, just so they can say they did it "for the fans." Considering their recent track record, they could use some more player support. Plus it could open up people to buying PS2 games from the playstation store. Sounds like a win-win to me, even if the emulation is far from perfect.
  8. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 43

    I reserve the right to apply patches and cracks that give me back my rights, regardless of what them manufacturers may want to impose on us. For instance, only now that I know that the latest iOS has been jailbroken, only now I would dare to buy a device with iOS, now that I know I can make it truly mine, despite of what Apple may want. Same goes for SONY's stuff, I'd much rather wait until someone cracks the krap out of all DRM and lock-ins, etc.., all the baddies.
  9. AdamantianGilga Newcomer, in training

    You are not thinking what if you buy the game for someone or you buy the game to check out how it plays you do and now you are completely screwed now you cannot return as the game is now dead and also some cannot buy the game at that time and the game sells out and no more is shipped they can bye off the net but have to pay shipping which makes it cost more or someone learns about the game from a friend and finds out it is a couple years old and they cannot buy the game except from the internet and the ones selling it jack up the prices making you have to pay more! Most games play a new game and sell it off when they are done to get back money to buy another new game take that away and games for that system will drop as no one wants to drop 60 dollars into a game that ends!
  10. AdamantianGilga Newcomer, in training

    One thing to remember when the PS3 came out how many people complained as they had games from the PS2 that they played over and over again but the PS2 died out and no new ones could be gotten but only used and they were sometimes not play the game! I had a PS2 and a game had a glitch point and would lock up I got 4 or 5 of the same game and still messed up there I tried to get a new PS2 but none where to buy here and so I am screwed there as the PS3 will not play the PS2 but I have found out they will play PS1 games and I am happy about that! Another thing is your game system gets damaged or something kills it and you buy a new one and already a lot of money gone but all the games you had is now used and cannot be played some finished and want to play again others are not you would have to hunt to buy all the games you had and that would be thousands of dollars gone also what if you buy the game for someone or you buy the game to check out how it plays you do and now you are completely screwed now you cannot return as the game is now dead and also some cannot buy the game at that time and the game sells out and no more is shipped they can bye off the net but have to pay shipping which makes it cost more or someone learns about the game from a friend and finds out it is a couple years old and they cannot buy the game except from the internet and the ones selling it jack up the prices making you have to pay more! Most games play a new game and sell it off when they are done to get back money to buy another new game take that away and games for that system will drop as no one wants to drop 60 dollars into a game that ends!
  11. DriverJ Newcomer, in training

    I wouldn't consider purchasing a console I could only use downloadable games or be blocked from playing used games. I have no issue buying pre-owned games at all. I would say about 50% of my game purchases are pre-owned. I shop carefully and only purchase discs that are in good condition. It's a great way to find a game I may have missed earlier on or felt wasn't a $60 title and waited until the pre-owned price was in a more reasonable bracket.
    If MS and Sony block pre-owned games on the coming generation I guess I'll stick to the games I have on my current systems or go back to PC gaming.
  12. treetops TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,385   +12

    I hope no one buys used games at gamestop.... ebay is insanely cheaper

    not being able to use used games would likely result in me just sticking to pc, I dont game much anymore anyways
  13. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 43

    It may be a matter of how lazy people can get, too me console gaming is all right, but mostly for the lazy who can't be bother with "installing" a game, I get some installers are a PITA, but seriously if legit users get pushed harder and harder into a corner, and it's give us your money or give us your money, I figure some are bound to wake up, most are just lazy though, and they create the conditions for these crappy market status quo that still manages to cripple choice even for the few die hard old fashioned shoppers like myself and many more.
  14. Tygerstrike TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 760   +72

    If they stop the consumer from using their own games that they still have liscencing rights too, then they are in a world of financial hurt.
  15. yukka TechSpot Paladin Posts: 552

    Well I was paying Blockbuster in the UK about 5quid a month to be in possession of one of their game disks at a time. So over the entire year I would pay £60 and during that year I would have always had the latest game to play and complete. That was the only money I spent all last year on new Xbox 360 games as £40 for a new release is a complete joke. I would wait for second hand prices to drop. Now with Steam sales I buy most of my PC games on discount as well and I plug my Xbox controller into the computer. I am not interested in a new wave of kinect games as I haven't even bought a kinect 1 for my 360. I guess I am not in the demographic of "buying the next gen console" anymore. Strange times.
  16. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 43

    I buy used PC games several years after they were released, and I get them very, very cheap, off of Ebay and/or Craigslist. You'll never catch me paying for a subscription, never will I shell out more than $10 for a game. I'm a cheap azz (darn bad words cop) gamer.
  17. Adamking TechSpot Member Posts: 17

    Back when I owned an XBOX 360 before I sold it on craigslist, I had about 40 games. Only about five were brand new. Out of all those used games, only one disc had an issue but it was still playable. Saved lots of money that way. If I were to somehow be on the verge of a new gaming console, it would have to support that. Going back to that region is highly unlikely though.
    I love Steam and my PC. I don't see a reason to give a flip about all the other stuff.
  18. The developers are missing the point. People will no longer take a chance on an unknown title or developer because they can recoup the cost of the game if it sucks. If a review comes out on a game and it says the game is OK but not great, do you think people will want to pay $60 for that game? I know I wouldn't. That mean titles will take longer to produce because they would need a good review to sell it. (Duke Nukem anybody?)

    I just see it hurting the the developers in the long run and consoles in general. I have several consoles and play PC games. I will use the path of least resistance.